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Post by DrTorch on Aug 17, 2021 15:56:54 GMT -5
does the NFL still have the "2-years removed from HS" rule and how does that affect a guy who only goes to HS for 3 years?
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 17, 2021 16:03:25 GMT -5
does the NFL still have the "2-years removed from HS" rule and how does that affect a guy who only goes to HS for 3 years? Good question. Is Quinn Ewers the initial pioneer in these uncharted waters?
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 17, 2021 16:04:25 GMT -5
I have little doubt, Quinn Ewers, his parents and Ryan Day have had serious, protracted discussions, bent on laying out a plan of development that will most benefit young Ewers, looking at the immediate and long term future, that will also fit within the football programs vision of things. One thing we can be certain of, the Ohio State football program and Coach Day will not allow themselves to be languishing in the realm of uncertainty. I'm certain, there will be a designed plan in place and if it is not workable, McCord then takes his rightful step forward.
We do know this, Quinn will be working with Mickey Marotti on his physical conditioning and working closely with Coach Dennis and Coach Day on his technique & mental development. As Day just stated, that "Ewers has a long way to go yet". As good as he is, he is in his infancy and a project. (kinda like tweaking and fine tuning a Ferrari, you might say) Next year, he will be the equivalent of a freshman, but with the advantage of a full year of top notch coaching (that he would not have had, otherwise).
By the time year three rolls around, he will know the playbook forward and backwards, be primed and ready for the big time and 'Ewers' and 'Heisman' will be mentioned in the same breath. Anything short of that, would be a tremendous disservice to this tremendously talented, young athlete.
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Post by ronburgandy on Aug 17, 2021 16:10:26 GMT -5
does the NFL still have the "2-years removed from HS" rule and how does that affect a guy who only goes to HS for 3 years? isn’t it 3 years removed from high school? But either way, that does pose an interesting question.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 17, 2021 20:15:16 GMT -5
I'm sure Day has had the same conversation with the other 3 scholarship QBs on the roster and their parents as well as Fields in the past and any QB in the future. All QBs get the same attention from Day and Coach Mick.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 17, 2021 21:51:27 GMT -5
I'm sure Day has had the same conversation with the other 3 scholarship QBs on the roster and their parents as well as Fields in the past and any QB in the future. All QBs get the same attention from Day and Coach Mick. I have little doubt coach Day has an honest and open dialogue with all his QB's and their families. However, each individual and each individual case, has it's own, unique set of circumstances and varying degrees of attention are necessary, not to be a slight to any of the others. That being said, I have complete confidence in coach Day and his staff, handling the situation in a manner that will provide the best possible outcome for this years team and for the program.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 18, 2021 10:12:27 GMT -5
does the NFL still have the "2-years removed from HS" rule and how does that affect a guy who only goes to HS for 3 years? It's 3 years, that's why I said Ewers doesn't have to be the starter until his 3rd year at Ohio State to be selected #1 overall in the NFL draft. An interesting aside. Since Ewers' actual class won't be 3 years removed for 4 more years, since he reclassified, will it be 3 years from now or 4 years? I know many basketball players have reclassified, but has there been a football player of note?
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 18, 2021 21:31:29 GMT -5
so if Ewers sits for 2 years and starts for 2 years he would be entering the draft after his "Junior" year of college
hmm
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 19, 2021 13:43:40 GMT -5
NO, if Ewers sits 2 years and starts his 3rd year he will enter the draft.... IF him reclassifying means his graduating class three years removed is in 2024. Even though the class he WAS normally going to graduate with three years removed would be in 2025. Could there be a test case lawsuit? IF he is made to stay until 2025, then maybe he won't mind if McCord is the starter in 2024, his year to be the 1st QB selected in the NFL draft.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 19, 2021 14:01:23 GMT -5
No matter what the facts may be, in his case. The expected norm is two years as a starter before entering the draft. I guess the real answer lies with him and his parents and where their priorities are. Do they want quick cash, or do they want him to be as fully developed and NFL ready as he can be? How many times have we seen a player jump to the league prematurely and prove to be a disappointing bomb, despite their obvious talents?
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 19, 2021 16:10:07 GMT -5
if development is the desire he should look to start for (2) years, although it is certainly possible he has (1) baller year as a starter and enters the draft
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Post by ronburgandy on Aug 19, 2021 16:53:42 GMT -5
if development is the desire he should look to start for (2) years, although it is certainly possible he has (1) baller year as a starter and enters the draft Dwayne Haskins did that.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 19, 2021 17:03:56 GMT -5
if development is the desire he should look to start for (2) years, although it is certainly possible he has (1) baller year as a starter and enters the draft Dwayne Haskins did that. yes so did Mac Jones, Kyler Murray, so it's def possible we only get 1-year of him altho 1-year of Ewers/Henderson/Harrison/Egbuka might be enough hehe
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 20, 2021 5:50:13 GMT -5
also, Haskins really could have used a 2nd year as a starter (see:Joe Burrows) and maybe the NIL money will allow Ewers the freedom to stay in college longer if he chooses
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 20, 2021 6:19:29 GMT -5
I love the fact that Ohio State recruits always have positive remarks, when it comes to Ohio State academics. Consequently, if you look at our recruiting successes the past decade, the academic levels of incoming recruits is quite remarkable. That reputation is not just by accident, but a direct reflection on the important priorities set forth by the head coach. This past year, it was revealed the team GPA average was a tad over 3.0 and my first reaction was......huh?
When you are bringing in recruits such as Treveyon Henderson who graduated with a 4.3 grade point average, with his only B grade coming in middle school, makes one shake their head. In that regard, it is only fitting that the first recruit for the 2023 class, TE Ty Lockwood is the quintessential student/athlete, sporting a 4.2 GPA his sophomore year, heading into his Junior year.
The point being, if you recruit students with an outstanding academic history, they are more apt to be a student of the game of football as well. These kinds of recruits leave little gray area on who they are and already states a high level of character. Coaches know they are getting a kid who will absorb everything that is thrown at him, from the playbook, clasroom instruction and on field training. It's no wonder, Ohio State has developed a strong academic reputation for producing Academic All-Americans year in and year out, a category that leads the Big Ten. Academics is a large part of the equation, when developing young people, it simply makes the process less troublesome and the end product more predictable when emphasis is put on this type of athlete.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 20, 2021 21:00:55 GMT -5
if development is the desire he should look to start for (2) years, although it is certainly possible he has (1) baller year as a starter and enters the draft Dwayne Haskins did that. Haskins would have been fine, except he acted like a 16 year old off the field.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 21, 2021 7:43:43 GMT -5
well getting drafted by a team so close to his home didn't help but i agree
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 21, 2021 18:48:39 GMT -5
Well, no earthshaker when coach Day announced his starting QB. C.J. Stroud hales from Cucamonga, California and that takes my mind to that classic song by Jan & Dean.....'Little Old Lady From Pasadena' where one line of lyrics is:
The Anaheim, Cucamonga, sewing circle, book review and timing association. (Try and say that as fast as you can)
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Post by ronburgandy on Aug 21, 2021 19:05:41 GMT -5
Day didn’t announce this but I read on an insider board that Mccord will be the backup. He had a great performance in their recent scrimmage to move him to 2nd.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 22, 2021 5:28:46 GMT -5
Day didn’t announce this but I read on an insider board that Mccord will be the backup. He had a great performance in their recent scrimmage to move him to 2nd. That comes as no surprise, as well. Of all the QB's, I love his passing motion, his release and his balls have the most zip on them. At this early stage, I envision a shootout between Ewers and McCord next season for the backup role. Would love to retain Miller, Ewers and McCord the next two years, but that's not the nature of the game these days. We neveer want to see a repeat of the LSU fantasy season, benefitted by an OSU QB's leadership.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 22, 2021 7:06:38 GMT -5
McCord is freaking LEGIT.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 22, 2021 14:21:10 GMT -5
What CJ Stroud has accomplished thus far is quite a story. Was a basketball PG until convinced to go out football when a Freshman in high school. Ranked as the 586th player in the country as a Junior, until he was invited to The Elite-11 QB camp, when given the final invitation. He dominated at the camp getting better as the skill work became more difficult. Winning the 7on7 tournament and receiving the only perfect score ever given. After Elite-11 and the success of his Senior season, his ranking overnight rose to nearly the 5 Star level.
I liked the fact that the more difficult it got at Elite-11, the more he rose his game against the best QBs in the county. He has a long road ahead of him, but I can't think of a better young QB to put the Ohio State offense in the hands of.
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Post by DrTorch on Aug 22, 2021 18:22:00 GMT -5
love CJ Stroud, think he is primed for a big year
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Post by buckeyekid on Aug 22, 2021 18:33:26 GMT -5
I’m excited because this team will feature a number of new guys who were very highly recruited. Anxious to see the new RB’s and watch our DL especially JTT and Jack Sawyer.
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Post by Birdman on Aug 23, 2021 2:18:29 GMT -5
The Buckeyes are primed to have a hell of a year. My only question is Indiana, Purdue, Penn State, TTUN, and Nebraska. One of those will inevitably be that “trap game” where we just look flat. Will be be able to overcome that team playing their best game game of the year and still take home a “W.”
I still realistically like our chances of heading into the BIG10 title game undefeated and being ranked #2 in the college football playoffs.
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 23, 2021 3:00:01 GMT -5
I think Coach Day and his staff understand how easily it is to look flat. Think the Indiana game was a learning experience and showed the results of transitioning into a prevent mode, while sitting on a lead. That game should not have been as close as it became.
Momentum is a teams best friend and when you lose 'Mo', nothing good happens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 5:39:59 GMT -5
Over/under is 11. That’s a pretty good bet. Can’t really see them losing 2 regular season games. At worst you’re getting your money back
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Post by sportsjock on Aug 24, 2021 6:26:32 GMT -5
Quinn Ewers is absent from the team for a non-injury related issue, that most suspect is Covid-19 protocol. You can pretty much conclude, he is one of the 10 that have elected to not get themselves vaccinated. That leaves 9 that are exercising their 'right' to not do so. Let's hope none of that group of 'special' people are not key starters for the Buckeyes. It is sad, that a small group would be willing to jeapardize everything this team has worked so hard to achieve. All the goals this team has set for themselves, could go up in smoke, over something that is very preventable, or at the very least, minimalized. Get vaccinated! Do it for you and your team mates.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 24, 2021 10:59:20 GMT -5
Ewers must not have known that if he was not vaccinated he had to get tested twice a week. Would you rather have something stuck up your nose twice a week and your teammates know who you were or be vaccinated?
My guess, the majority of the non-vacs are walkons.
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Post by baldref on Aug 24, 2021 12:16:17 GMT -5
B1G has changed its COVIC game cancel policy for this year, If a team has to cancel a game because of COVID, it is counted as a forfeit and a win for the other team. If both teams have to cancel, then it is a no contest. Lets hope Ewers and his other 9 buddies dont screw up the season for the BUcks. Get the damn shot.
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