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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 8, 2021 14:22:53 GMT -5
Haven't you read where this year there were 2 US high school track athletes that gave up their eligibility to run professionally? Track is huge in Europe, 50,000 show up for a track meet. They play track athletes handsomely.
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Post by sportsjock on Jul 8, 2021 17:31:21 GMT -5
Does anyone else foresee some big problems on down the road for the new NIL accomodation? I think this is going to be the shotgun effect, with agents and alumni boosters throwing their money everywhere. The NCAA is ill-equipped with personnel or financial resources to deal with something of this magnitude. Think we had problems here and there with unscrupulous athletic boosters, flush with money corrupting collegiate sports? You haven't seen anything that compares to what lies ahead.
Although I support athletes that jump into this newly formed entrepreneurial marketplace, it will be a good learning exercise for all of them. My concern is, there will be an army of sleezeballs jumping into the picture, trying to lure and influence players to their favorite campus, with massive payoffs, thinly disguised as legitimate marketing of the NIL. Good luck with the NCAA, who will be overwhelmed.
Sure to be just around the corner, is pay to play. The players will eventually become recipients of organized labor unions, win favorable legal litigations in the court system and the crack in the door for players receiving negotiated slaries will be set in place, hence, the beginning of the end for college football.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 8, 2021 19:29:24 GMT -5
I see it being nickel dime stuff except for the QB, running back, star WR or defensive studs. Other than those, if you come from a middle class family or better, where your family can afford to give you some spending money, why bother with the hassles. I worry about the kids from poor families that have no idea what they're getting themselves into. Agents, third uncles, partying, spending it all, then having to deal with a tax bill at the end year. Ya the schools will do all they can to educate them, but they can't babysit them
Will high school athletes be next?
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Post by sportsjock on Jul 8, 2021 22:10:39 GMT -5
I see it being nickel dime stuff except for the QB, running back, star WR or defensive studs. Other than those, if you come from a middle class family or better, where your family can afford to give you some spending money, why bother with the hassles. I worry about the kids from poor families that have no idea what they're getting themselves into. Agents, third uncles, partying, spending it all, then having to deal with a tax bill at the end year. Ya the schools will do all they can to educate them, but they can't babysit them Will high school athletes be next? If i'm not mistaken, think they were saying on ESPNU, several players have inked significant deals already. Quinn Ewers is going to be one of the big prize winners. He has the personality, California Beach boy look and he will be a rock star of college football for his entire tenure. I wouldn't be surprised if he commands a 6 or 7 figure deal. I still think back at numerous times the big, bad NCAA swooped in and imposed penalties on a coach for compassionately, shelling out some bucks to a player that just lost a parent, or gravely ill family member, for air fare to rush home and be by their side, or attend a funeral. They never came around and implemented an emergency clause, for special instances like these. Very telling........
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 9, 2021 20:19:59 GMT -5
Did I say there would not be "significant deals"? What is your definition of "significant"? There would be a HUGE difference between "significant" for the starting QB vs the long snapper. Ohio State has 1200 athletes and they have a few with "significant deals"?? Wow!
I don't know what your family back ground is, but if I was on a full ride at a college someone would have to pay me a large sum of money to go out of my way to spend 10 minutes doing anything. None of this silly $10 to make a post on social media or play a video game with someone I don't know.
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Post by buckeyefan22 on Jul 11, 2021 0:10:35 GMT -5
We go 15-0 done deal
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Post by maplecityjake on Jul 12, 2021 10:58:31 GMT -5
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Post by buckeyefan22 on Jul 12, 2021 13:49:05 GMT -5
I also have confidence that we’ll put up 100 on your Wolverines Jake
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 14:59:26 GMT -5
Interesting tidbit I read today. Alabama, Clemson and OSU’ likely new qbs grew up within an hour of each other in Cali
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Post by sportsjock on Jul 12, 2021 15:29:34 GMT -5
I have confidence, Michigan will go 7-5 or possibly 8-4. Hairball said team goals in 2021 is win the B1G and the National Championship.....lol
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Post by dude on Jul 20, 2021 10:46:52 GMT -5
Any updates from practice.
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Post by dude on Jul 29, 2021 7:31:32 GMT -5
Ewers may come this fall? At this point, would that help this season?
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Post by ronburgandy on Jul 29, 2021 9:29:39 GMT -5
I don’t like the idea of Ewers coming this year. I think it just causes more problems than anything, in my opinion. And seems like it’d be less time that we would actually get to see him play in an OSU uniform in the long run
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Post by dude on Jul 29, 2021 10:22:40 GMT -5
I don’t like the idea of Ewers coming this year. I think it just causes more problems than anything, in my opinion. And seems like it’d be less time that we would actually get to see him play in an OSU uniform in the long run I'd like to see him stay in HS this year. Graduate early and show up for spring workouts.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 29, 2021 15:37:37 GMT -5
It could cost him a Million+ to stay in high school THIS YEAR. There's a company that has already offered him a lot of cash and a piece of the company if he got into Ohio State this year. Couldn't take a penny if in high school.
ALSO if he enrolls and learns the offence THIS year, it means he can get drafted a year sooner, get a $50 million contract and a $25 million signing bonus a year sooner.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 29, 2021 15:38:06 GMT -5
Ewers may come this fall? At this point, would that help this season? it only helps him
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 29, 2021 15:41:51 GMT -5
I don’t like the idea of Ewers coming this year. I think it just causes more problems than anything, in my opinion. And seems like it’d be less time that we would actually get to see him play in an OSU uniform in the long run Tell him that and he will be enrolling somewhere else this year. It is all about the money now, since NIL. Apparently Ewers and his family have been talking to Day about this for about a month. The parents really like the way Day has been handling the possibility, they say like a family member.
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Post by DrTorch on Jul 30, 2021 12:50:01 GMT -5
I don’t like the idea of Ewers coming this year. I think it just causes more problems than anything, in my opinion. And seems like it’d be less time that we would actually get to see him play in an OSU uniform in the long run you are being kind, this is an absolute nightmare imho...i mean relatively speaking, it can only be so bad when you have TOO many good QBs but what, we get 1 year of Stroud and then he transfers out when Ewers wins the job heading into next season? or maybe before this season is over? does everyone sit until Ewers 2-year run is over? no one is keeping this kid on the bench, at least not for long i guess as an OSU fan it doesn't matter but my lord that's a LOT of chefs in the QB room
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Post by ronburgandy on Jul 30, 2021 15:07:09 GMT -5
I don’t like the idea of Ewers coming this year. I think it just causes more problems than anything, in my opinion. And seems like it’d be less time that we would actually get to see him play in an OSU uniform in the long run you are being kind, this is an absolute nightmare imho...i mean relatively speaking, it can only be so bad when you have TOO many good QBs but what, we get 1 year of Stroud and then he transfers out when Ewers wins the job heading into next season? or maybe before this season is over? does everyone sit until Ewers 2-year run is over? no one is keeping this kid on the bench, at least not for long i guess as an OSU fan it doesn't matter but my lord that's a LOT of chefs in the QB room Exactly, Stroud and McCord aren’t going to just sit behind him and see their careers just filter away. Mccord is a big time talent that, in other times, probably could be a 2-3 year starter here. But like you said, you can’t just sit Ewers. This type of talent at the most important position can’t be just sitting on the bench. Hopefully he stays at Texas for his senior year. But even if he comes next spring there’s still a ton of questions on how this is going to be sorted out.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 30, 2021 18:13:22 GMT -5
I don’t like the idea of Ewers coming this year. I think it just causes more problems than anything, in my opinion. And seems like it’d be less time that we would actually get to see him play in an OSU uniform in the long run you are being kind, this is an absolute nightmare imho...i mean relatively speaking, it can only be so bad when you have TOO many good QBs but what, we get 1 year of Stroud and then he transfers out when Ewers wins the job heading into next season? or maybe before this season is over? does everyone sit until Ewers 2-year run is over? no one is keeping this kid on the bench, at least not for long i guess as an OSU fan it doesn't matter but my lord that's a LOT of chefs in the QB room Not out of the realm of possibility....Ohio State wins the National Title, their QB wins the Heisman. No way is Ewers the starting QB the following year. A even greater possibility....it's midseason or 3/4 of the way through, Ohio State is undefeated and their QB has one of the 5 highest QB ratings in the country, NO WAY is Ewers replacing the starting QB. JMHO, this years starting QB is not going to be replaced unless the end of the world happens and Ohio State loses 2 games. IF that happens, some will want to replace Ryan Day. Think about it....the ONLY solution to this QB conundrum Ryan Day has Ohio State in, is to tell Ewers NOT to come to Ohio State this year. This will cause Ewers' family to get on the phone looking for the highest bidder for his talents prior to the start of this season.
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Post by Birdman on Jul 30, 2021 22:41:09 GMT -5
My general understanding of all this talk is, unless you want to be the best and perform the best, transfer out of OSU.
I personally like that pressure. The kids want to play in the big time, produce the results.
Remember 99% of college football would love to have this “problem.”
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 6:48:05 GMT -5
Iron sharpens iron
The only way Ewers isn’t the starting the qb at some point in ‘22 is if the Buckeyes win the natty this year. It’s Clemson with Lawrence all over again.
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Post by ronburgandy on Jul 31, 2021 7:11:48 GMT -5
My general understanding of all this talk is, unless you want to be the best and perform the best, transfer out of OSU. I personally like that pressure. The kids want to play in the big time, produce the results. Remember 99% of college football would love to have this “problem.” im looking at it from more of a selfish standpoint, to be honest. A talent at QB only comes around like this every so often so I want to see him in a Buckeye uniform as long as possible. I don’t want to see anyone transfer out, but I do think one, or even two, of the current QB’s on the roster eventually will.
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Post by DrTorch on Jul 31, 2021 7:49:39 GMT -5
we have (4) legit QBs once Ewers is added, i would like to see more than (2) years of game play from the whole group
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Post by ronburgandy on Jul 31, 2021 8:07:07 GMT -5
And that’s what I worry about if Ewers comes this year, wouldn’t this season count as his first year of eligibility? Meaning he only has two more until he most likely heads to the NFL. So we would most likely only get two seasons of him, and mccord in that scenario is most likely not here anymore. Mccord is talented enough that he isn’t going to let his college career just go to waste.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 9:55:27 GMT -5
If/when Ewers is on campus Jack Miller will be in the transfer portal
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 31, 2021 12:34:15 GMT -5
And that’s what I worry about if Ewers comes this year, wouldn’t this season count as his first year of eligibility? Meaning he only has two more until he most likely heads to the NFL. So we would most likely only get two seasons of him, and mccord in that scenario is most likely not here anymore. Mccord is talented enough that he isn’t going to let his college career just go to waste. If Ewers declassifies, all the QBs including Ewers, would be eligible to play in a max of 4 games this year and still redshirt. Not losing a year of eligibility. Other than Ewers the other 3 also have the ability to take the Free Year of NCAA eligibility, due to THE virus. Even if they transfer. Not saying that any would take advantage of the rules, just that they could.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Aug 1, 2021 12:49:08 GMT -5
If/when Ewers is on campus Jack Miller will be in the transfer portal Even IF Ewers doesn't show up until next year, Jack Miller will be in the transfer portal if he's #3 on the depth chart this year.
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Post by ronburgandy on Aug 2, 2021 10:48:17 GMT -5
It appears by all reports that Ewers will definitely be enrolling in Ohio State and able to compete in fall camp. This will be interesting to see how everything plays out during the season and going into next winter.
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Post by ronburgandy on Aug 2, 2021 12:55:05 GMT -5
Buckeye fans will only get 2 seasons at most of Ewers at QB.
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