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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 11, 2022 8:28:26 GMT -5
Add in Sueing as well. So with him and Washington, there’s two expected starters not playing. I do think there’s a few games we should’ve still won though that we lost.
I’m not on the fire Holtmann wagon like I see many on social media, I want to see how he does with this incoming class and hopefully Sueing comes back healthy. But I don’t expect a huge increase in wins next year with the inexperience they’ll have.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 11, 2022 8:59:23 GMT -5
And just reading online someone makes a good point that Gene Smith will probably give Holtmann at least two more years. With the class they have coming in next year, with 4 top 60 recruits, they will give him another year with that class to see how he does in their second year in the program.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 10:05:37 GMT -5
And just reading online someone makes a good point that Gene Smith will probably give Holtmann at least two more years. With the class they have coming in next year, with 4 top 60 recruits, they will give him another year with that class to see how he does in their second year in the program. Has Gene Smith fired any head coach at Ohio St?
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 11, 2022 10:09:19 GMT -5
I don’t follow enough of the smaller profile sports to know. But I’d say Matta would be one. He may not have been “fired” in public terms but we all know how that went down behind closed doors.
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Post by baldref on Mar 11, 2022 13:53:46 GMT -5
Now that a 20-win and improving Indiana team is making a strong showing in B1G tourney, is an obvious faltering 19-win osu team in jeopardy of not making the big show?
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 11, 2022 14:02:02 GMT -5
Now that a 20-win and improving Indiana team is making a strong showing in B1G tourney, is an obvious faltering 19-win osu team in jeopardy of not making the big show? Not one bit. Their overall resume is too strong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 14:07:02 GMT -5
Now that a 20-win and improving Indiana team is making a strong showing in B1G tourney, is an obvious faltering 19-win osu team in jeopardy of not making the big show? Tell me you know nothing about college basketball without telling me you know nothing about college basketball
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 11, 2022 14:43:20 GMT -5
Add in Sueing as well. So with him and Washington, there’s two expected starters not playing. I do think there’s a few games we should’ve still won though that we lost. I’m not on the fire Holtmann wagon like I see many on social media, I want to see how he does with this incoming class and hopefully Sueing comes back healthy. But I don’t expect a huge increase in wins next year with the inexperience they’ll have. Although my opinion of coach Holtmann has gone south, I'm not advocating he be fired. I want him to be much less predictable and more innovative at both ends of the court.
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Post by browns624 on Mar 11, 2022 15:20:11 GMT -5
Now that a 20-win and improving Indiana team is making a strong showing in B1G tourney, is an obvious faltering 19-win osu team in jeopardy of not making the big show? Not even close to missing it... lowest they will be is a 7 seed at worst
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2022 15:21:13 GMT -5
And just reading online someone makes a good point that Gene Smith will probably give Holtmann at least two more years. With the class they have coming in next year, with 4 top 60 recruits, they will give him another year with that class to see how he does in their second year in the program. Has Gene Smith fired any head coach at Ohio St? Urban ....you don't think he wanted to coach at Ohio State when Day was hired? Jim Foster Women's coach before McGuff. He left Ohio State for a better job at Chattanooga?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 11, 2022 16:23:09 GMT -5
Ohio State should’ve gone 3-1 in these last 4 games and instead go 1-3. Injuries did play a part in that. Injuries played a role, but coaching is a major player in these losses.....IMO. C'mon Chris, mix it up a little more and be less predictable, defensively. There have been moments recently, where we had opportunities to apply some form of full court pressure on the ball at key points in recent games and nothing. Being without Kyle Young is going to be tough. Let's hope Zed Key can contribute. No coach in his right mind, with a depleted roster, uses full court pressure. Is that your fan's view of doing something "unpredictable defensively"??
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 11, 2022 19:44:58 GMT -5
Holtman has been snake eyes unlucky with his roster. To have a good team you need better guards than what we have this year. Just not there unfort.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 12, 2022 10:45:34 GMT -5
Branham is Ohio State's 2 guard. BUT to you point, good basketball teams these days are all about the quality of their guards.
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 12, 2022 17:50:23 GMT -5
Over/under games played set at 19.5
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 13, 2022 9:10:06 GMT -5
What time is the NCAA selection committee show?
Just got the answer to my question. Telecast live at 6pm on CBS
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Post by buckeyekid on Mar 19, 2022 7:17:50 GMT -5
Really really happy for Kyle Young and Holtman. I felt last year with Young we beat Oral Roberts. I felt going into the Loyola game the same way. Not having him for the Big T tourn game was clearly a blessing in disguise ,,and I almost wonder if it was by design. Which doesn’t change my opinion at all.
We had everyone yesterday and we were a different team. A team that I think can compete with Nova too.
Add Sueing and Towns and we’d be even better. Maybe FF material .
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 20, 2022 16:26:34 GMT -5
They made a nice comeback to cut it to 2 but just couldn’t get enough buckets. There was a tough stretch late in the game where Liddell missed the front end of a 1 and 1 then next possession he turned it over and the next one after that they missed an open 3 and after that Key had a offensive foul called. Just brutal possessions.
On to football now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 16:51:09 GMT -5
Kyle Young’s career ends fittingly. Good chance there will 4 new starters next year.
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Post by baldref on Mar 20, 2022 16:51:38 GMT -5
19 lost possessions (12 turnovers 7 vill steals) vs 11 assists didn't help either, plus the vill 10 free throw advantage all contributed. Frankly surprised it was that close
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 20, 2022 17:20:21 GMT -5
V was more physical, played really good defense, more shooters, better ball handlers. I too was surprised it was that close. Ohio State might have had the 2 best players in the game, but V had a better overall lineup.
If Young tries to play overseas, he's risking his sanity. Four concussions in one year can lead to dementia. That bump on his cheekbone would not affected someone who has never had a concussions or one.
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Post by baldref on Mar 20, 2022 17:22:50 GMT -5
V was more physical, played really good defense, more shooters, better ball handlers. I too was surprised it was that close. If Young tries to play in overseas, he's risking his sanity. Four concussions in one year can lead to dementia. That bump on his cheekbone would not affected someone who has never had a concussions or one. More shooters and better ball handlers were huge differences
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Post by DrTorch on Mar 20, 2022 18:32:43 GMT -5
why can't osu hoop fans have nice things 😪
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 21, 2022 5:18:32 GMT -5
I come away, very impressed with Villanova, a complete team in most every respect. Can't complain with the Buckeyes efforts in this one. They played intense defense the entire game, but when Young went out, that pretty much sealed it, because a Holtmann team doesn't have a full court, trapping defense in their repertoir, when it's late in the game, down ten and in need of making something happen, when the final result seems apparent. If you don't practice it, you can't play it and apparently, he doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 5:25:30 GMT -5
I come away, very impressed with Villanova, a complete team in most every respect. Can't complain with the Buckeyes efforts in this one. They played intense defense the entire game, but when Young went out, that pretty much sealed it, because a Holtmann team doesn't have a full court, trapping defense in their repertoir, when it's late in the game, down ten and in need of making something happen, when the final result seems apparent. If you don't practice it, you can't play it and apparently, he doesn't. They cut it to 2 with a shot to tie it without Kyle Young and without pressing
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Post by sportsjock on Mar 21, 2022 6:36:37 GMT -5
I come away, very impressed with Villanova, a complete team in most every respect. Can't complain with the Buckeyes efforts in this one. They played intense defense the entire game, but when Young went out, that pretty much sealed it, because a Holtmann team doesn't have a full court, trapping defense in their repertoir, when it's late in the game, down ten and in need of making something happen, when the final result seems apparent. If you don't practice it, you can't play it and apparently, he doesn't. They cut it to 2 with a shot to tie it without Kyle Young and without pressing Yes they did and give them credit, but when we are down 10 and in the final minute(s), you need to apply maximum pressure, which we did not, thus.....the final results.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 9:04:10 GMT -5
They cut it to 2 with a shot to tie it without Kyle Young and without pressing Yes they did and give them credit, but when we are down 10 and in the final minute(s), you need to apply maximum pressure, which we did not, thus.....the final results. no the final result was due to 3 turnovers, a missed front end of a 1 and 1 and 2 missed shots in their last 6 possessions
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 21, 2022 10:00:54 GMT -5
I come away, very impressed with Villanova, a complete team in most every respect. Can't complain with the Buckeyes efforts in this one. They played intense defense the entire game, but when Young went out, that pretty much sealed it, because a Holtmann team doesn't have a full court, trapping defense in their repertoir, when it's late in the game, down ten and in need of making something happen, when the final result seems apparent. If you don't practice it, you can't play it and apparently, he doesn't. You don't know that. Maybe they do practice it and the 2nd unit beats it. That could be just as likely as your assumption
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Mar 21, 2022 20:07:44 GMT -5
Players like Gillespie are a nightmare. Add in Nova's all time free throw shooting and the end game scenarios are exceedingly hard to overcome. Nova has had a hell of a run with those smart PGs that can post up, execute smart offense, and exploit the spacing the defense allows. Arcidiacano, Brunson, and Gillespie are no joke. I thought OSU held their own, but there's a reason Nova has held top billing for as long as they have.
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Post by ronburgandy on Mar 21, 2022 20:49:53 GMT -5
Tony Skinn will be leaving the team after just one season to go coach with Kevin Willard at Maryland. So Holtmann now has two assistants to replace.
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Post by ronburgandy on Apr 1, 2022 17:21:33 GMT -5
Branham declares for the draft.
Next years team is going to be very interesting. A lot of players are going to have to step up.
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