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Post by 2112 on May 8, 2022 20:35:24 GMT -5
Liberty Benton didn't have a say in it. I heard this 3 weeks ago that the rest of the league throw them out, there tired of LB beating them up every year. LB is way to big for that league and get to many open enrollment also. Was told LB talked to the NBC last week but they have 8. Missed one of the NBC moves: Woodmore to SBC River to be replaced by Maumee Elmwood to BVC to be replaced by,……..? Elmwood was replaced by Oak Harbor.
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Post by falcon87 on May 9, 2022 16:33:05 GMT -5
Missed one of the NBC moves: Woodmore to SBC River to be replaced by Maumee Elmwood to BVC to be replaced by,……..? Elmwood was replaced by Oak Harbor. Not sure how I forgot about OH moving back with their old friends.
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Post by sbclives on May 31, 2022 13:32:39 GMT -5
Have been reading that there is strong rumblings from people who make decisions and in the know that Fostoria is looking to the SBC River and Liberty Benton would take their spot in the NBC. Also there’s speculation that the River schools may also break off into their own league. There’s been a couple Lake ADs pushing for a 10 school league of the Lake and Bay combined but two schools do not want a part in that. My guess is Huron and Edison.
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Post by areafan1 on May 31, 2022 15:03:35 GMT -5
I would think that the River wouldn't want Fostoria. Fostoria is twice as big as most river schools.
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Post by jmorgret07 on May 31, 2022 15:05:18 GMT -5
I would think that the River wouldn't want Fostoria. Fostoria is twice as big as most river schools. Somewhat accurate, but Hopewell and Fostoria have played in football the past few seasons. I know Lakota and Fostoria used to at least scrimmage in boys basketball. Woodmore and Fostoria are current members of the Northern Buckeye Conference. It's not the craziest thought.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 31, 2022 15:29:41 GMT -5
Have been reading that there is strong rumblings from people who make decisions and in the know that Fostoria is looking to the SBC River and Liberty Benton would take their spot in the NBC. Also there’s speculation that the River schools may also break off into their own league. There’s been a couple Lake ADs pushing for a 10 school league of the Lake and Bay combined but two schools do not want a part in that. My guess is Huron and Edison. None of this post has any accuracy. The SBC has never spoke of Fostoria and the River adding them is laughable. There is not any pushing going on for 10 team Lake/Bay. Sure it’s been discussed but 5/5 will have its chance to succeed. Fluidity is life.
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Post by falcon87 on May 31, 2022 17:03:40 GMT -5
Scrimmages and nonconference games are one thing but being part of the same conference is a whole new level. I’ll put money on the conference disbanding before the ink on the invitation dries.
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Post by 2112 on Jun 1, 2022 2:10:58 GMT -5
This is *exactly* what many forget in this whole deal... the new-look SBC was set up to accomodate the kinds of shifts and changes that come with being stretched across a rural region between 2 or 3 population centers. You have your handful of reliable core members who are changing in terms of enrollment, you have several members along the edges that will regularly change because they have options and politics are politics, and you have a flexible, adaptable structure in which to house them all. Implementing a setup with this kind of fluidity was a brilliant move on the parts of the ADs... they had a choice: the changes were coming, just as they always do. They decided to control the changes instead of letting the changes control them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2022 17:05:43 GMT -5
I would imagine its only a matter of time before the Lake and Bay combined will only have 8 teams anyway. Thats why they will continue this rotating division stuff for football. I have no idea who will leave, but I envision shakeups happening in the future, its the way things trend anyway. Especially with the major population changes this area has experienced the last 20 years.
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Post by sbclives on Jun 5, 2022 19:44:01 GMT -5
I would imagine its only a matter of time before the Lake and Bay combined will only have 8 teams anyway. Thats why they will continue this rotating division stuff for football. I have no idea who will leave, but I envision shakeups happening in the future, its the way things trend anyway. Especially with the major population changes this area has experienced the last 20 years. Most of the time it’s the smallest who leave. With the enrollment of Huron and Edison I just don’t see how you’d be competitive in most years with schools the size of Norwalk, Sandusky and Columbian.
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Post by sbclives on Jun 12, 2022 21:35:15 GMT -5
Not that this has any effect on the area leagues but I just read that after next school year that Parma high school will be closing with most of the students heading to Normandy and Valley Forge. I just wonder if any movement will start northeast of the area and some shifting will start.
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Post by buckeyefan73 on Jun 13, 2022 0:48:26 GMT -5
Not that this has any effect on the area leagues but I just read that after next school year that Parma high school will be closing with most of the students heading to Normandy and Valley Forge. I just wonder if any movement will start northeast of the area and some shifting will start. I read somewhere that they were trying to merge all three schools, but that is shocking.
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Post by sbclives on Jun 13, 2022 10:17:30 GMT -5
Not that this has any effect on the area leagues but I just read that after next school year that Parma high school will be closing with most of the students heading to Normandy and Valley Forge. I just wonder if any movement will start northeast of the area and some shifting will start. I read somewhere that they were trying to merge all three schools, but that is shocking. I’m sure that some people saw this coming but a one year notice had to hit some rather hard. It’s weird to me how a school that size will close but a school like Vanlue who has 10-12 kids a grade somehow stays open.
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Post by falcon87 on Jun 14, 2022 11:17:13 GMT -5
I read somewhere that they were trying to merge all three schools, but that is shocking. I’m sure that some people saw this coming but a one year notice had to hit some rather hard. It’s weird to me how a school that size will close but a school like Vanlue who has 10-12 kids a grade somehow stays open. Vanlue has lived within their means, big schools have large expensive structures with expensive contracts. People in Vanlue likely donate time, talent and treasure for the good of their community. More than taxes run that little school I’ll bet. Small town attitude toward schools is different because it is the center of the town’s fleeting existence in their minds
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Post by sbclives on Jun 14, 2022 13:16:55 GMT -5
With the new enrollment numbers coming out and showing an obvious trend for some towns. IMO it looks like there’s an obvious split between towns going small and towns who have stayed the same or even a little on the bigger side. I’d really like to see PC, Willard, Huron, Margaretta and Edison and get 3 more schools on board to make an 8 school league. Maybe you could get Vermilion to get to 6 schools but then who would the other two be. I’m just not sure how some teams will feel being in the same division once Bellevue moves into the Bay.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jun 14, 2022 13:42:05 GMT -5
I’m sure that some people saw this coming but a one year notice had to hit some rather hard. It’s weird to me how a school that size will close but a school like Vanlue who has 10-12 kids a grade somehow stays open. Vanlue has lived within their means, big schools have large expensive structures with expensive contracts. People in Vanlue likely donate time, talent and treasure for the good of their community. More than taxes run that little school I’ll bet. Small town attitude toward schools is different because it is the center of the town’s fleeting existence in their minds you beat me to it. Community pride is a sonofagun
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Post by redskinfan04 on Jun 14, 2022 18:27:52 GMT -5
I’m sure that some people saw this coming but a one year notice had to hit some rather hard. It’s weird to me how a school that size will close but a school like Vanlue who has 10-12 kids a grade somehow stays open. Vanlue has lived within their means, big schools have large expensive structures with expensive contracts. People in Vanlue likely donate time, talent and treasure for the good of their community. More than taxes run that little school I’ll bet. Small town attitude toward schools is different because it is the center of the town’s fleeting existence in their minds Community pride only gets so far when you have a kindergarten class of one.
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Post by sbclives on Jun 14, 2022 21:10:35 GMT -5
Vanlue has lived within their means, big schools have large expensive structures with expensive contracts. People in Vanlue likely donate time, talent and treasure for the good of their community. More than taxes run that little school I’ll bet. Small town attitude toward schools is different because it is the center of the town’s fleeting existence in their minds Community pride only gets so far when you have a kindergarten class of one. At that point what do you do with just one student in a grade? Obviously you’re not going to pay one teacher a full salary for that one student. When do you say enough is enough and we can’t keep doing this when the writing has been on the wall. I know every community has their pride and think highly of it. There also comes a time when you have to do what’s best for everyone.
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Post by falcon87 on Jun 14, 2022 22:20:43 GMT -5
Community pride only gets so far when you have a kindergarten class of one. At that point what do you do with just one student in a grade? Obviously you’re not going to pay one teacher a full salary for that one student. When do you say enough is enough and we can’t keep doing this when the writing has been on the wall. I know every community has their pride and think highly of it. There also comes a time when you have to do what’s best for everyone. Pride got them THIS far but as our small towns continue to be gutted many WILL lose the battle. If Vanlue can survive they will. They’ve got tough decisions ahead and unless you pay their local taxes it should make no difference to you. Their kids get no more state money if they attend local or merge into another district
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Post by greenman on Jun 30, 2022 22:24:44 GMT -5
Not that this has any effect on the area leagues but I just read that after next school year that Parma high school will be closing with most of the students heading to Normandy and Valley Forge. I just wonder if any movement will start northeast of the area and some shifting will start. They’re considering consolidating into a single high school. Whether or not that happens, Parma Senior, the flagship HS, is going nowhere. If the full 3-into-1 consolidation does t go through, the first to go will, I believe, most likely be Normandy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 15:48:02 GMT -5
Saw on 13abc Action News this morning, (Oregon) Cardinal Stritch is taking a break from 11 man football this coming fall.
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Post by maplecityjake on Aug 30, 2022 19:39:15 GMT -5
Seems to be some brewing on Yappi about Columbian to NLL
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Post by dude on Aug 30, 2022 20:32:43 GMT -5
If Tiffin would leave for a NLL would would be the fallout for the SBC? If that would happen I could see that being a final move that would end the 3 divisions league. With 22 current teams but 10 of them wanting to be in the small school division this could force a major change.
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Post by sbclives on Aug 30, 2022 21:06:53 GMT -5
If Tiffin would leave for a NLL would would be the fallout for the SBC? If that would happen I could see that being a final move that would end the 3 divisions league. With 22 current teams but 10 of them wanting to be in the small school division this could force a major change. I would hope a group of ADs have already gotten together for future plans of making a league. Everyone has to know this won’t last and I’m sure Columbian knows if movement is made, they’d probably be the odd team out.
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Post by dude on Aug 31, 2022 9:21:38 GMT -5
If Tiffin would leave for a NLL would would be the fallout for the SBC? If that would happen I could see that being a final move that would end the 3 divisions league. With 22 current teams but 10 of them wanting to be in the small school division this could force a major change. I would hope a group of ADs have already gotten together for future plans of making a league. Everyone has to know this won’t last and I’m sure Columbian knows if movement is made, they’d probably be the odd team out. Hoping that ADs have been proactive is great but ADs do not make the decisions for changing leagues. And at least some of the SBC ADs thought that a mega conference was a great idea, and look where that has gone.
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Post by sbclives on Aug 31, 2022 10:21:59 GMT -5
I would hope a group of ADs have already gotten together for future plans of making a league. Everyone has to know this won’t last and I’m sure Columbian knows if movement is made, they’d probably be the odd team out. Hoping that ADs have been proactive is great but ADs do not make the decisions for changing leagues. And at least some of the SBC ADs thought that a mega conference was a great idea, and look where that has gone. At the time to keep some of the schools happy it was a great idea, just not an idea that was forever. I think at this point the River could just break off and be their own league. The others will have to figure it out.
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Post by dude on Aug 31, 2022 10:43:41 GMT -5
Hoping that ADs have been proactive is great but ADs do not make the decisions for changing leagues. And at least some of the SBC ADs thought that a mega conference was a great idea, and look where that has gone. At the time to keep some of the schools happy it was a great idea, just not an idea that was forever. I think at this point the River could just break off and be their own league. The others will have to figure it out. Problem is that most of the schools want to be in the River.
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Post by areafan1 on Aug 31, 2022 11:57:36 GMT -5
Willard has no business being in the River being D5, Lakota was 5 last year and Margetta is close.
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Post by areafan1 on Aug 31, 2022 12:22:30 GMT -5
D5 Willard - 199 +0 = 199 D6 Lakota - 133 + 11 = 144 D6 Margaretta - 134 + 5 = 139 D6 Woodmore - 116 + 3 = 119 D6 Hopewell - 99 + 16 = 115 D7 Gibsonburg - 106 + 5 = 111 D7 St Joe - 48 + 19 = 67 D7 Calvert - 47 + 5 = 52 Calvert has 40 boys playing football
Get rid of Willard 55 to 147 more boys.
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Post by sbclives on Aug 31, 2022 13:04:01 GMT -5
D5 Willard - 199 +0 = 199 D6 Lakota - 133 + 11 = 144 D6 Margaretta - 134 + 5 = 139 D6 Woodmore - 116 + 3 = 119 D6 Hopewell - 99 + 16 = 115 D7 Gibsonburg - 106 + 5 = 111 D7 St Joe - 48 + 19 = 67 D7 Calvert - 47 + 5 = 52 Calvert has 40 boys playing football Get rid of Willard 55 to 147 more boys. Huron - 154 Edison - 157 Willard who has 199 is going to the River. In the same division with St. Joe and Calvert who has 47 and 48. I’d like to see Edison, Huron, Margaretta, Willard, PC and Vermilion and get to other schools to form a league but I know that won’t happen
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