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Post by runawaytrain on Aug 31, 2022 19:45:50 GMT -5
D5 Willard - 199 +0 = 199 D6 Lakota - 133 + 11 = 144 D6 Margaretta - 134 + 5 = 139 D6 Woodmore - 116 + 3 = 119 D6 Hopewell - 99 + 16 = 115 D7 Gibsonburg - 106 + 5 = 111 D7 St Joe - 48 + 19 = 67 D7 Calvert - 47 + 5 = 52 Calvert has 40 boys playing football Get rid of Willard 55 to 147 more boys. Calvert actually has 45 players listed on their roster and only six are seniors.
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Post by dude on Sept 2, 2022 3:49:18 GMT -5
How many SBC schools do. Not have football?
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Sept 2, 2022 6:11:33 GMT -5
How many SBC schools do. Not have football? There are 4 that do not have 11 man football. New Riegel and Old Fort have no football at all. Danbury and SMCC have 8 man football, and both play in the Northern 8 Conference.
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Post by 2112 on Nov 14, 2022 20:52:18 GMT -5
Just bumping this now that all SBC schools have (unfortunately) closed out their seasons.
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Post by Mike Hula on Nov 15, 2022 8:39:30 GMT -5
There is no perfect solution for all schools in the area. This area is diverse with student populations so that there will never be a perfect answer.
The best solution is invite some schools that are a little far travel wise but size wise, fit. Gone are the days of a 20 minute travel to play a school with a similar size
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Post by dude on Nov 15, 2022 14:13:38 GMT -5
There is no perfect solution for all schools in the area. This area is diverse with student populations so that there will never be a perfect answer. The best solution is invite some schools that are a little far travel wise but size wise, fit. Gone are the days of a 20 minute travel to play a school with a similar size School size has always been a driving force to put a league together when travel was not a concern. Now with declining attendance and the cost of travel, the desire and interest to organize leagues more locally to increase fan support and reduce travel costs has never been higher.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Nov 15, 2022 14:28:13 GMT -5
Says a guy whose league has lost schools for the opposite and gained schools for the opposite and will be begging for any school to get out of the conundrum of a 7 school league
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Post by 2112 on Dec 18, 2022 21:46:48 GMT -5
Posts over on Yappi allude to Madison Comp and Lexington potentially moving over to SBC, what could that look like with EC and LB as well (2022 CB enrollment)?
362 Norwalk 353 Columbian 350 Madison Comp 350 Sandusky 301 Lexington 275 Clyde
249 Perkins 243 Bellevue 229 Vermilion 222 Elyria Catholic 195 Port Clinton 182 Liberty-Benton 163 Edison 157 Huron
199 Willard 144 Lakota 139 Margaretta 119 Woodmore 115 Hopewell-Loudon 111 Gibsonburg 67 SJCC 52 Calvert
A 6-8-8, while not a tidy as an 8-8-8, looks totally doable. Could Madison and Lexington coming in also lure Ontario and Shelby back? Could LB coming in lure Fostoria? Could EC coming in open Firelands's eyes? Time will tell if any of this comes true...
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Post by dude on Dec 18, 2022 21:52:42 GMT -5
Why would Lex and Madison leave a 7 team league to join a 6 team league?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 19, 2022 11:15:04 GMT -5
To dude's point. Why is Perkins and Bellevue in the Bay? They should be in the Lake, then possibly Lex and Madison could be convinced to join the SBC Lake making it an 8 school Division. THEN maybe Ontario and Shelby could be convinced to play in the Bay
Why would EC affect anything in the Firelands?
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Post by BellevueBuckeye on Dec 19, 2022 12:19:09 GMT -5
Posts over on Yappi allude to Madison Comp and Lexington potentially moving over to SBC That was just jake making a what if kinda post, not any sort of "this may be happening" insider type post
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Post by dude on Dec 19, 2022 13:58:38 GMT -5
Posts over on Yappi allude to Madison Comp and Lexington potentially moving over to SBC, what could that look like with EC and LB as well (2022 CB enrollment)? 362 Norwalk 353 Columbian 350 Madison Comp 350 Sandusky 301 Lexington 278 Ontario275 Clyde 249 Perkins 247 Shelby243 Bellevue 229 Vermilion 222 Elyria Catholic Could Madison and Lexington coming in also lure Ontario and Shelby back?
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Post by sbclives on Dec 19, 2022 16:11:28 GMT -5
Posts over on Yappi allude to Madison Comp and Lexington potentially moving over to SBC That was just jake making a what if kinda post, not any sort of "this may be happening" insider type post He really needs to stick with hanging out in his shed.
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Post by wetsu on Dec 19, 2022 19:48:39 GMT -5
In the Northwest Ohio Realignment Yappi thread
Spirit454 asked this: "Any talk about separating the SBC divisions into actual leagues?"
To which dhsdog06 replied: "You could call them, idk.
NOL SBC MAL"
About sums it up.
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Post by sbclives on Dec 19, 2022 21:41:48 GMT -5
In the Northwest Ohio Realignment Yappi thread Spirit454 asked this: "Any talk about separating the SBC divisions into actual leagues?" To which dhsdog06 replied: "You could call them, idk. NOL SBC MAL" About sums it up. Margaretta wants in the MAL.
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Post by sportsvideo on Dec 20, 2022 9:31:50 GMT -5
In the Northwest Ohio Realignment Yappi thread Spirit454 asked this: "Any talk about separating the SBC divisions into actual leagues?" To which dhsdog06 replied: "You could call them, idk. NOL SBC MAL" About sums it up. Margaretta wants in the MAL. they really want in the firelands conference if they didn't have to play St Paul or Crestview.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 20, 2022 11:20:47 GMT -5
Crestview is not the long time power in sports that St.Paul has been. They're currently in an up cycle due to the athletes they've had the past 5 years or so.
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Post by sbclives on Dec 20, 2022 12:21:43 GMT -5
Margaretta wants in the MAL. they really want in the firelands conference if they didn't have to play St Paul or Crestview. That list keeps getting longer on who Margaretta doesn’t want to play. No wonder a league can’t form. A number of schools has demands or needs.
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Post by sbclives on Dec 20, 2022 14:23:03 GMT -5
It finally happened. The BVC has voted out Vanlue for football only. Vanlue said it’ll go the independent route and has no interest in 8 man football. Once Liberty Benton leaves the league they will be at 7 football schools.
How did it get to this? Why is it such a mess to do something so simple to form a stable league and yet it seems impossible now.
Firelands conference - currently operating with 7 football schools for the 3rd year in row next year
BVC - will be at 7 football schools in a couple years
NLL - will be operating with 11 schools
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 16:05:40 GMT -5
If they could get away with it, Margaretta would schedule New London type tough games as much as they could, Win by 70 and feel good and proud about it.
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Post by sbclives on Dec 20, 2022 16:10:20 GMT -5
If they could get away with it, Margaretta would schedule New London type tough games as much as they could, Win by 70 and feel good and proud about it. I think Margaretta is trying to make it a rivalry with the likes of St. Joe and Calvert. The smaller the better for Margaretta.
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Post by richrod on Dec 20, 2022 17:51:35 GMT -5
To dude's point. Why is Perkins and Bellevue in the Bay? They should be in the Lake, then possibly Lex and Madison could be convinced to join the SBC Lake making it an 8 school Division. THEN maybe Ontario and Shelby could be convinced to play in the Bay Why would EC affect anything in the Firelands? You realize Shelby and Ontario have more boys than Perkins and Bellevue in the last count. In theory if the SBC goes by enrollment Ontario and Shelby would be in the Lake. And as much as I love richland county teams, they don't want any part of the SBC Lake in football
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 20, 2022 19:29:16 GMT -5
We're talking about convincing. Some say Ontario was not invited to be a part of the SBC when all other NOL teams were. Remember Ontario was an NOL member then. Shelby was not treated very friendly when they CHOSE the MOAC over the SBC. KEY WORD convince.
Perkins and Bellevue doesn't want to be in the Lake with their long time compatriots?
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Post by richrod on Dec 20, 2022 20:34:01 GMT -5
We're talking about convincing. Some say Ontario was not invited to be a part of the SBC when all other NOL teams were. Remember Ontario was an NOL member then. Shelby was not treated very friendly when they CHOSE the MOAC over the SBC. KEY WORD convince.Perkins and Bellevue doesn't want to be in the Lake with their long time compatriots? You'd have to ask people associated with Perkins and Bellevue that question. Shelby did get what they wanted by getting in the Bay for FB originally even though enrollment wise they would have been in the Lake. Ontario wants no part of the SBC Lake in football, we both know it. Now the other sports are a different story. Football seems to drive league moves though. If football is the driver, it would be hard to convince them, IMO
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 20, 2022 22:06:44 GMT -5
it would be even harder to convince them due to the longer distances and being happy with long time rivals Clear Fork Galion and Shelby in a 8 school League as opposed to a division that most likely would be less than 8
btw that 278 is a misnomer. Ontario's CB balance adder is a silly 19 and obviously NO ONE moves or open enrolls to Ontario to play football, like they do to Glenville. Who is in a lower Division than Ontario.... LOL. How would you like the tarblooders in the SBC?
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Post by falcon87 on Dec 20, 2022 22:16:20 GMT -5
If they could get away with it, Margaretta would schedule New London type tough games as much as they could, Win by 70 and feel good and proud about it. I think Margaretta is trying to make it a rivalry with the likes of St. Joe and Calvert. The smaller the better for Margaretta. Rather ignorant of River football. Calvert has athletes and tends to be competitive. St. Joe not so much. Seems Edison, Willard and Margaretta all find scheduling options in the River desirable. Seems like only River schools play up
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 20, 2022 22:22:42 GMT -5
River schools can't play down
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Post by baldref on Dec 21, 2022 13:31:10 GMT -5
Will someone list the benefits to Galion, Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork that would entice them to leave the cozy, 8-school MOAC and join a redesigned, ever-changing SBC or some variation thereof? And for those that say create a new Richland county type league, that's been discussed for years and frankly,I do not see it ever happening.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 21, 2022 15:07:18 GMT -5
Will someone list the benefits to Galion, Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork that would entice them to leave the cozy, 8-school MOAC and join a redesigned, ever-changing SBC or some variation thereof? And for those that say create a new Richland county type league, that's been discussed for years and frankly,I do not see it ever happening. AND Highland and RV are closer than SBC schools
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Post by GHS 1999 on Dec 21, 2022 20:22:07 GMT -5
I don’t see Ontario or Shelby leaving the MOAC. There is a higher likelihood that Lex joins the MOAC if another opening occurs. I’m not sure if the SBC is a better option for Lex/Madison/Mansfield Sr considering Clyde/Sandusky/Tiffin/Norwalk aren’t any closer to them than the OCC schools even if Dover joins. Sounds like wishful thinking to some hoping that the mega conference works out.
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