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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 6, 2023 20:56:54 GMT -5
Glenville suffers their third loss of the year tonight 28-16 to Hoban. Pirates are licking their chops at the thought of a Glenville match-up! That’s much closer than many suspected it would be.
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Post by sbclives on Oct 6, 2023 21:02:56 GMT -5
Glenville suffers their third loss of the year tonight 28-16 to Hoban. Pirates are licking their chops at the thought of a Glenville match-up! That’s much closer than many suspected it would be. Could make an argument that Hoban is the best team in the state
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Post by sbcfootballfan on Oct 6, 2023 21:04:05 GMT -5
Mikey young is perkins wow player supposedly and i really don’t see him and think d1 player, size and look yes, but he was getting blocked all night by norwalks tackles, if perkins wanna win state #4 and collier are gonna have to carry big time
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Post by csk on Oct 6, 2023 22:51:26 GMT -5
Wouldn’t say that…Hoban is a machine, Glenville was never going to win that game. However, the Tarblooders are the top dawg in D4 until someone knocks them off Glenville suffers their third loss of the year tonight 28-16 to Hoban. Pirates are licking their chops at the thought of a Glenville match-up!
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Post by dawsongolfer on Oct 7, 2023 10:10:11 GMT -5
You don't see it but several colleges do. Interesting Mikey young is perkins wow player supposedly and i really don’t see him and think d1 player, size and look yes, but he was getting blocked all night by norwalks tackles, if perkins wanna win state #4 and collier are gonna have to carry big time
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Post by kritz on Oct 7, 2023 12:07:47 GMT -5
Glenville had 6 starters including the QB sit due to eligibility questions with OHSAA. Imagine that 😉
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Post by sbcfootballfan on Oct 7, 2023 12:10:51 GMT -5
You don't see it but several colleges do. Interesting Mikey young is perkins wow player supposedly and i really don’t see him and think d1 player, size and look yes, but he was getting blocked all night by norwalks tackles, if perkins wanna win state #4 and collier are gonna have to carry big time How many times have kids went to college and been bust lol? kid still has 0 stars, look at other 25’ D1 linebacker stats and his do not match up lol
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Post by dawsongolfer on Oct 7, 2023 13:28:28 GMT -5
So you're contradicting yourself? Has zero stars but the top 2025 LBs are locks to be great right? And stats are the tell all of recruiting. Seems like you just have a beef in general. You don't see it but several colleges do. Interesting How many times have kids went to college and been bust lol? kid still has 0 stars, look at other 25’ D1 linebacker stats and his do not match up lol
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Post by poondaddy on Oct 7, 2023 14:59:55 GMT -5
You don't see it but several colleges do. Interesting How many times have kids went to college and been bust lol? kid still has 0 stars, look at other 25’ D1 linebacker stats and his do not match up lol Not sure I would consider him a linebacker. I’ve seen them line him up at pretty much every position on defense besides D Tackle. Regardless… you’re an idiot. One of those guys better off just worrying about their fantasy team than actually talking about football.
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Post by timriggins on Oct 7, 2023 15:05:39 GMT -5
Glenville had 6 starters including the QB sit due to eligibility questions with OHSAA. Imagine that 😉 Interesting. Wonder how that will affect them going forward? They may not even make it to a game against Perkins if they have so many eligibility issues.
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 7, 2023 16:17:35 GMT -5
Glenville had 6 starters including the QB sit due to eligibility questions with OHSAA. Imagine that 😉 And they still played with Hoban without them.
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Post by csk on Oct 7, 2023 20:24:05 GMT -5
Really…seems like OHSAA is cracking down if that’s the case. Massillon QB, now this, if true Glenville had 6 starters including the QB sit due to eligibility questions with OHSAA. Imagine that 😉
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Oct 7, 2023 21:03:24 GMT -5
Regardless, if/when the time arrives, pull a 2019 Norwalk, and tar them
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Post by fanofthefall on Oct 7, 2023 21:35:41 GMT -5
I find it interestng that multiple Perkins fans have put down Roggow saying that he is not a D1 caliber QB and that the only quality he has over Lesch is that he is 6'4". As soon as someone critiques Young, many of the Perkins faithful become very defensive.
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Post by sbcfootballfan on Oct 8, 2023 4:22:54 GMT -5
I find it interestng that multiple Perkins fans have put down Roggow saying that he is not a D1 caliber QB and that the only quality he has over Lesch is that he is 6'4". As soon as someone critiques Young, many of the Perkins faithful become very defensive. Exactly lol, all Young has is speed and his build, no beef at all but only 26 tackles and a couple sacks going into this norwalk game, then gets locked up by the worst team of the lake division for the whole first half. D1 players make wow plays, young doesn’t make wow plays🤷🏽♂️ nor does he have the stats to back it up
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Post by sbcfootballfan on Oct 8, 2023 4:27:06 GMT -5
So you're contradicting yourself? Has zero stars but the top 2025 LBs are locks to be great right? And stats are the tell all of recruiting. Seems like you just have a beef in general. How many times have kids went to college and been bust lol? kid still has 0 stars, look at other 25’ D1 linebacker stats and his do not match up lol Who ever said the top 2025 LBs would be good at the college level? i said look at there current HS stats for them and you’ll see he does not stack up , but no potential and size and other things go into it but i have not seen young get much better over the years , just a big body who is a good highschool linebacker, he does not stack up to a glenville OT , he will get pancaked all night
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Post by sbcfootballfan on Oct 8, 2023 4:36:38 GMT -5
How many times have kids went to college and been bust lol? kid still has 0 stars, look at other 25’ D1 linebacker stats and his do not match up lol Not sure I would consider him a linebacker. I’ve seen them line him up at pretty much every position on defense besides D Tackle. Regardless… you’re an idiot. One of those guys better off just worrying about their fantasy team than actually talking about football. go watch the kids film on twitter/X haha, he’s an outside linebacker who occasionally plays on the ball stand up but is still an outside linebacker from that spot lol, his film isn’t wow worthy, his stats aren’t even among the best in the sbc , how is that d1? idc if u say “you don’t know his roll” i promise you they tell they’re d1 linebacker to go find the ball and shed blocks and he simply doesn’t, btw have you seen that kid use an actual pass rush move? other then run straight and hope to out muscle the inferior competition? and soon as he gets stone walled he’s a non factor, once he gets to glenville and real d1 tackles you will see what im talking about, no pass rush, horrible block shedding and play recognition in the run , especially when he’s lined up on the ball, say what you want but i guess we will just have to wait a few years and see, hope the best for the kid though
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Oct 8, 2023 5:46:29 GMT -5
Not sure I would consider him a linebacker. I’ve seen them line him up at pretty much every position on defense besides D Tackle. Regardless… you’re an idiot. One of those guys better off just worrying about their fantasy team than actually talking about football. go watch the kids film on twitter/X haha, he’s an outside linebacker who occasionally plays on the ball stand up but is still an outside linebacker from that spot lol, his film isn’t wow worthy, his stats aren’t even among the best in the sbc , how is that d1? idc if u say “you don’t know his roll” i promise you they tell they’re d1 linebacker to go find the ball and shed blocks and he simply doesn’t, btw have you seen that kid use an actual pass rush move? other then run straight and hope to out muscle the inferior competition? and soon as he gets stone walled he’s a non factor, once he gets to glenville and real d1 tackles you will see what im talking about, no pass rush, horrible block shedding and play recognition in the run , especially when he’s lined up on the ball, say what you want but i guess we will just have to wait a few years and see, hope the best for the kid though I take offense when this isn't used to describe what one Team will do to another
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Post by timriggins on Oct 8, 2023 7:39:23 GMT -5
Glenville had 6 starters including the QB sit due to eligibility questions with OHSAA. Imagine that 😉 And they still played with Hoban without them. I read that it was 28-8 and that Glenville’s starters scored a late TD against Hoban’s JV players. Not quite “playing with them” if that report was accurate.
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Post by Birdman on Oct 8, 2023 10:10:00 GMT -5
To hold Hoban to 28 points is what sticks out to me.
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Post by poondaddy on Oct 8, 2023 11:01:56 GMT -5
Not sure I would consider him a linebacker. I’ve seen them line him up at pretty much every position on defense besides D Tackle. Regardless… you’re an idiot. One of those guys better off just worrying about their fantasy team than actually talking about football. go watch the kids film on twitter/X haha, he’s an outside linebacker who occasionally plays on the ball stand up but is still an outside linebacker from that spot lol, his film isn’t wow worthy, his stats aren’t even among the best in the sbc , how is that d1? idc if u say “you don’t know his roll” i promise you they tell they’re d1 linebacker to go find the ball and shed blocks and he simply doesn’t, btw have you seen that kid use an actual pass rush move? other then run straight and hope to out muscle the inferior competition? and soon as he gets stone walled he’s a non factor, once he gets to glenville and real d1 tackles you will see what im talking about, no pass rush, horrible block shedding and play recognition in the run , especially when he’s lined up on the ball, say what you want but i guess we will just have to wait a few years and see, hope the best for the kid though You created an account to bash a young kid who you don’t know because he doesn’t make enough flashy plays for your liking… From the games I’ve watched he has lined up at DE, OLB, ILB, and DB/Safety. He covers the whole field and seems to be a very sure tackler. That alone would be intriguing for D1 schools then you add the fact he is a state caliber track star and had 4.0+ GPA… that will get some schools calling for sure. For the record, I disagree with any Perkins posters that talk down on Roggow as well. Seems like a good kid with plenty of talent to play at a D1 level. Some of those posters resentment may be related to the lack of interest in Lesch. Both players are excellent QBs that we are lucky to have on area teams.
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Post by fanofthefall on Oct 8, 2023 15:58:25 GMT -5
I agree that both QBs are very good and throw a great ball. Both are blessed to have the talent around them too with their receivers and RBs. The OLine from both teams must be solid too for both teams to have the offensive stats they do. As soon as players get D1 offers from our league, which doesn't happen very often, extra criticsm usually comes with it. This is wha tis happening to Young now since he has an offer from Miami (OH) I think.
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Post by wetsu on Oct 8, 2023 19:44:49 GMT -5
I agree that both QBs are very good and throw a great ball. Both are blessed to have the talent around them too with their receivers and RBs. The OLine from both teams must be solid too for both teams to have the offensive stats they do. As soon as players get D1 offers from our league, which doesn't happen very often, extra criticsm usually comes with it. This is wha tis happening to Young now since he has an offer from Miami (OH) I think. The SBC has long been a bitter league, hasn't it? As population fell and blood lines thinned some of the rivalries faded that were once fierce. Once a school that everybody hated St. Mary's is a shell of itself. I was a kid in the early to mid 60's but I still remember the rivalries to an extent. During high school I remember great excitement for most every game in the 70's. I don't disagree with your general sentiment but where does the extra criticism come from as far as standout kids? My observation is that the league schools follow each other during the tournaments pretty well unless that has changed since expansion. The internet allows for malcontents to say anything they want (to an extent) so these critics might be other kids who are envious or adults who simply can't let go. I don't have twitter or X or whatever the heck the name is today but I uderstand that it is a cesspool of negativity. As far as D-I kids are concerned I don't see it as a rarity. I have seen Terion Stewart play multiple times at BGSU, along with kids like Mike Brown at Eastern Michigan, the running back from Norwalk (help Jake), and Cody Thompson is still flirting with the NFL. I forget the kids name but there was a slot receiver from Sandusky that had a good senior year at BG a couple of years ago. There are likely others that don't spring to mind. Tim Wilson from Clyde played in the NFL. The D-I schools flooded the North Coast area for decades looking for players. Has the talent dropped off that much?
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Post by redskinfan04 on Oct 8, 2023 20:25:08 GMT -5
I agree that both QBs are very good and throw a great ball. Both are blessed to have the talent around them too with their receivers and RBs. The OLine from both teams must be solid too for both teams to have the offensive stats they do. As soon as players get D1 offers from our league, which doesn't happen very often, extra criticsm usually comes with it. This is wha tis happening to Young now since he has an offer from Miami (OH) I think. The SBC has long been a bitter league, hasn't it? As population fell and blood lines thinned some of the rivalries faded that were once fierce. Once a school that everybody hated St. Mary's is a shell of itself. I was a kid in the early to mid 60's but I still remember the rivalries to an extent. During high school I remember great excitement for most every game in the 70's. I don't disagree with your general sentiment but where does the extra criticism come from as far as standout kids? My observation is that the league schools follow each other during the tournaments pretty well unless that has changed since expansion. The internet allows for malcontents to say anything they want (to an extent) so these critics might be other kids who are envious or adults who simply can't let go. I don't have twitter or X or whatever the heck the name is today but I uderstand that it is a cesspool of negativity. As far as D-I kids are concerned I don't see it as a rarity. I have seen Terion Stewart play multiple times at BGSU, along with kids like Mike Brown at Eastern Michigan, the running back from Norwalk (help Jake), and Cody Thompson is still flirting with the NFL. I forget the kids name but there was a slot receiver from Sandusky that had a good senior year at BG a couple of years ago. There are likely others that don't spring to mind. Tim Wilson from Clyde played in the NFL. The D-I schools flooded the North Coast area for decades looking for players. Has the talent dropped off that much? Jeff Linkenbach played for Margaretta then went onto start for Cincinnati before having a multi year NFL career. I believe Cavon Croom is the Sandusky player you referenced.
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Post by sbcfootballfan on Oct 8, 2023 20:31:22 GMT -5
This has nothing to do to criticize him for no reason , the thread is that perkins will win state, i am just saying young does not stack up to the top talents at a school like glenville, and btw idk what game poondaddy is watching but young has never once in his life lined up as a DE, he plays OLB and occasionally is on ball and rushing, that doesn’t mean he’s a de just bc he rushes the pass from the d line though haha , other then that yes he plays a little inside and a little db, and you are making my point more and more with the “he’s state caliber track, he’s got a 4.0 gpa” like okay cool but i am saying he isn’t a d1 level football player, he’s just fast , built nicely, and smart so he has mac interest and still has to go through a senior year and retain those offers, say im hating all you want but i’m just saying, the kid doesn’t make splash plays, doesn’t have the stats to back it up, and spends a lot of the day engaged in blocks, yes he’s smart and a hell of an athlete, but a d1 fbs linebacker no he isn’t and that’s just being a realist
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Post by wetsu on Oct 8, 2023 21:15:15 GMT -5
This has nothing to do to criticize him for no reason , the thread is that perkins will win state, i am just saying young does not stack up to the top talents at a school like glenville, and btw idk what game poondaddy is watching but young has never once in his life lined up as a DE, he plays OLB and occasionally is on ball and rushing, that doesn’t mean he’s a de just bc he rushes the pass from the d line though haha , other then that yes he plays a little inside and a little db, and you are making my point more and more with the “he’s state caliber track, he’s got a 4.0 gpa” like okay cool but i am saying he isn’t a d1 level football player, he’s just fast , built nicely, and smart so he has mac interest and still has to go through a senior year and retain those offers, say im hating all you want but i’m just saying, the kid doesn’t make splash plays, doesn’t have the stats to back it up, and spends a lot of the day engaged in blocks, yes he’s smart and a hell of an athlete, but a d1 fbs linebacker no he isn’t and that’s just being a realist Fair enough. I haven't seen much of him so I'll get on YouTube. With attributes like that you don't think that a MAC school might take a chance on him? As far as the state title thing I said that unless Hoban trashes Glenville there is no chance for Perkins to beat them. I would certainly prefer for Perkins to win it but I don't think that they will, I've been wrong before. A lot of people never thought Van Wert could pull it off.
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Post by sbcfootballfan on Oct 8, 2023 21:42:18 GMT -5
This has nothing to do to criticize him for no reason , the thread is that perkins will win state, i am just saying young does not stack up to the top talents at a school like glenville, and btw idk what game poondaddy is watching but young has never once in his life lined up as a DE, he plays OLB and occasionally is on ball and rushing, that doesn’t mean he’s a de just bc he rushes the pass from the d line though haha , other then that yes he plays a little inside and a little db, and you are making my point more and more with the “he’s state caliber track, he’s got a 4.0 gpa” like okay cool but i am saying he isn’t a d1 level football player, he’s just fast , built nicely, and smart so he has mac interest and still has to go through a senior year and retain those offers, say im hating all you want but i’m just saying, the kid doesn’t make splash plays, doesn’t have the stats to back it up, and spends a lot of the day engaged in blocks, yes he’s smart and a hell of an athlete, but a d1 fbs linebacker no he isn’t and that’s just being a realist Fair enough. I haven't seen much of him so I'll get on YouTube. With attributes like that you don't think that a MAC school might take a chance on him? As far as the state title thing I said that unless Hoban trashes Glenville there is no chance for Perkins to beat them. I would certainly prefer for Perkins to win it but I don't think that they will, I've been wrong before. A lot of people never thought Van Wert could pull it off. I too hope an area team like perkins can win it, but idk if they truly have the talent for a glenville, i think they can outcoacu glenville definitely. But i do think a mac will take a chance on young because of those things, but i dont think that makes him a true d1 talent and who knows if he ever even plays a down at the next level even with an offer, i think he looks like a d1 player and he’s a good highschool linebacker in d4 sbc, but he just doesn’t have that natural intstinct or wow factor of a d1 player, and he doesn’t have big game changing plays, he just has a few clean up tackles here and there and a few sacks from a broken down play where the db’s played amazing coverage.
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Post by wetsu on Oct 8, 2023 21:56:20 GMT -5
Fair enough. I haven't seen much of him so I'll get on YouTube. With attributes like that you don't think that a MAC school might take a chance on him? As far as the state title thing I said that unless Hoban trashes Glenville there is no chance for Perkins to beat them. I would certainly prefer for Perkins to win it but I don't think that they will, I've been wrong before. A lot of people never thought Van Wert could pull it off. I too hope an area team like perkins can win it, but idk if they truly have the talent for a glenville, i think they can outcoacu glenville definitely. But i do think a mac will take a chance on young because of those things, but i dont think that makes him a true d1 talent and who knows if he ever even plays a down at the next level even with an offer, i think he looks like a d1 player and he’s a good highschool linebacker in d4 sbc, but he just doesn’t have that natural intstinct or wow factor of a d1 player, and he doesn’t have big game changing plays, he just has a few clean up tackles here and there and a few sacks from a broken down play where the db’s played amazing coverage. I can't pass judgement on the kid until I've seen him but I appreciate your observations. I wish Perkins the best of luck. Maybe I'll get to see them during the playoffs.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Oct 8, 2023 22:30:00 GMT -5
Wetsu, I believe you meant Tim Anderson from Clyde
Were you thinking Treyvon Raymore from Norwalk?
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Post by wetsu on Oct 8, 2023 23:08:22 GMT -5
Wetsu, I believe you meant Tim Anderson from Clyde Were you thinking Treyvon Raymore from Norwalk? If he went to EMU then yes, but that name isn't ringing a bell.
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