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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 19:17:09 GMT -5
It's not common knowledge. Have you spoken to anyone in Shelby lately. There were reasons they did not aggressively pursue the MOAC. It was not ideal for them either.
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Post by wallacefan on Jun 15, 2017 20:44:57 GMT -5
It's not common knowledge. Have you spoken to anyone in Shelby lately. There were reasons they did not aggressively pursue the MOAC. It was not ideal for them either. Have I talked to anyone is Shelby lately? Yea. Today. Multiple people. And not just guys walking down the street on Whitney Avenue. And I know fully what the issues were the first time. That is over with. I've tried to tell you before Scooter, some people know and some people think they know. I'm not guessing at this. Wait and see. |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jun 15, 2017 21:06:14 GMT -5
I would comment on the NU situation, but you know, 4 yelled at me about "rumors", so there. Once it is voted on, though, I will let all of you know and change my name. Any idea when this vote is to take place? |
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 15, 2017 22:01:14 GMT -5
Invitation will be coming Shelby's way next week or the following week. Likely to be for 2018-19 school year. Shelby has openly said it's where they would prefer to be (lesser of three (MOAC vs SBC vs OCC) non-ideal situations). We will see if they actually go through with it when the opportunity presents itself. Always expect the unexpected.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 22:13:30 GMT -5
It's not common knowledge. Have you spoken to anyone in Shelby lately. There were reasons they did not aggressively pursue the MOAC. It was not ideal for them either. Have I talked to anyone is Shelby lately? Yea. Today. I'm not guessing at this. Wait and see. Great, so then you know some of the coaches are not in on the MOAC and the Admins have some concerns as well. It's not a lock. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 16, 2017 0:15:07 GMT -5
What coaches? What Admins?? Scooty knows all and sees all, but never has a name. He's portends to know more about the SBC, MOAC, N-10 and others than people who live in towns and have kids in school districts. He must sell janitorial supplies.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 5:38:47 GMT -5
Invitation will be coming Shelby's way next week or the following week. Likely to be for 2018-19 school year. Shelby has openly said it's where they would prefer to be (lesser of three (MOAC vs SBC vs OCC) non-ideal situations). We will see if they actually go through with it when the opportunity presents itself. Always expect the unexpected. That may be the truest statement in saying Shelby may select a least non-ideal situation. I know from talking with some involved, the topics of tradition, location, attendance, competition and benefits have been discussed for all their sports. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 16, 2017 6:25:22 GMT -5
Invitation will be coming Shelby's way next week or the following week. Likely to be for 2018-19 school year. Shelby has openly said it's where they would prefer to be (lesser of three (MOAC vs SBC vs OCC) non-ideal situations). We will see if they actually go through with it when the opportunity presents itself. Always expect the unexpected. That may be the truest statement in saying Shelby may select a least non-ideal situation. I know from talking with some involved, the topics of tradition, location, attendance, competition and benefits have been discussed for all their sports. The travel in the SBC is a big deal but if they give it a year, I believe it will be much better than they perceive. Plus, as you mention they are sacrificing some long-standing traditions and familiarity (even with some the new SBC schools) to join a group that has some shaky and indecisive members. I realize they have sporadically played some members of the MOAC but there is a lot of uncertainty there. Not sure I'd be making that leap of faith without some serious vetting, which they will do. |
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Post by galion on Jun 16, 2017 11:42:56 GMT -5
Let's be honest here, the current "SBC" format isn't on any firmer ground than the MOAC right now.
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Post by Eagles nest on Jun 16, 2017 12:58:20 GMT -5
Let's be honest here, the current "SBC" format isn't on any firmer ground than the MOAC right now. Agree 100% and the only programs in the MOAC that make people feel it is unstable are NU and Pleasant. Which NU is voting to leave, but Pleasant will not unless RV goes with them. |
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Post by usa70pp on Jun 16, 2017 14:03:31 GMT -5
I find it relatively funny that recent joiners of the MOAC know more about it then those that have been around it for 25 or more years. On the other hand, they might also just be blowing smoke.
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Post by galion on Jun 16, 2017 14:25:30 GMT -5
Only time will tell who is "guessing" right.
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Post by galiontiger on Jun 16, 2017 15:30:57 GMT -5
There also has to be representation from every school in the "area". At least that used to be the rule. I realize that you are a father and probably too close the situation to look at it objectively but no way should your son have been chosen over any qb on either roster. Sorry man just being objective about it. Maybe (on the too close to the situation comment..), but I looked up the stats on the qb's who played..not overly impressed, especially in those divisions. The MOAC Red is the toughest division around with those teams that played. Also, I only saw like 2 quarterbacks on each team's roster. I'm pretty sure last year's team had at least 3 on each team. Because Grant Loy was injured for the South's team last year. I thought Chase had his best game of the year against our last opponent, Pleasant. We lost "of course" but we put up 39 points on them. Not even Jonathan Alder put that much on them. Only Marion Harding put up more. All the other teams were at like 0, 6 and 7 points. That's got to say "a little" something, doesn't it? What about a QB going to college to play football? No...still? LOL Work with me here. |
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Post by galiontiger on Jun 16, 2017 15:37:19 GMT -5
Hey! You guys think I'm a whining father? I was so disappointed that my son didn't get a nod to play in the North/South game. I was really looking forward to that game. I went and watched it last year. I didn't see many guys who were heading on to play college football. Was this just an academic athletes chosen to play, I guess I'm trying to see what they get judged on. Don't get me wrong Connor Moreton is a BEAST. He should have made it first from Galion easy call there. I thought my son did enough at the end of the season to warrant a spot though to showcase what he could do with the talented guys on the North's team. It was only senior boys right? If I am a whining dad...don't care..wanted to vent a little bit. haha! I never even heard the quarterbacks on the North's team..one was from South Central...come man! LOL Where is that roster located? It was hard to find. I had to google the name of the game and search a few articles. But I found it, couldn't tell you where now though. The North had two quarterbacks, one was from South Central....like 1200 passing yards..like 500 yards rushing..somewhere around there. I watched both guys films..one was just a rushing quarterback it looked like. He didn't have many passing plays on his film. I forget where the other was from. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 17:41:04 GMT -5
Wasn't Galion on the south team? If so who played North QB shouldn't matter to you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 17:42:38 GMT -5
I find it relatively funny that recent joiners of the MOAC know more about it then those that have been around it for 25 or more years. On the other hand, they might also just be blowing smoke. It's just possible that the new teams coming in have been asking a bunch of questions and looking into a lot of possible scenarios that they older joiners may not be. |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jun 16, 2017 18:47:19 GMT -5
That may be the truest statement in saying Shelby may select a least non-ideal situation. I know from talking with some involved, the topics of tradition, location, attendance, competition and benefits have been discussed for all their sports. The travel in the SBC is a big deal but if they give it a year, I believe it will be much better than they perceive. Plus, as you mention they are sacrificing some long-standing traditions and familiarity (even with some the new SBC schools) to join a group that has some shaky and indecisive members. I realize they have sporadically played some members of the MOAC but there is a lot of uncertainty there. Not sure I'd be making that leap of faith without some serious vetting, which they will do. As a Galion person I have been hoping Shelby and Galion would eventually end up in a league together again. The thing I wonder is it's mentioned about tradition for why Shelby should want to be in the SBC but yet the football division has none of the former NOL members in it. I think the lack of stability of the MOAC is overblown. NU hasn't been happy with Harding but there is plenty of stability with the others. This Galion fan is hoping Shelby goes to the MOAC. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 16, 2017 20:13:49 GMT -5
I find it relatively funny that recent joiners of the MOAC know more about it then those that have been around it for 25 or more years. On the other hand, they might also just be blowing smoke. It's just possible that the new teams coming in have been asking a bunch of questions and looking into a lot of possible scenarios that they older joiners may not be. It is NOT "possible that Ontario has been asking a bunch of questions and looking into a lot of possible scenarios". More untruths about Ontario from scooty, who in reality knows very little. Ontario is 100% committed to the MOAC. The travel for Ontario in the MOAC is much less than it was In the NOL. The travel in the MOAC is much much less than what it would have been in the SBC, the same holds true for Shelby in the SBC. , |
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Post by galion on Jun 16, 2017 20:27:45 GMT -5
There also has to be representation from every school in the "area". At least that used to be the rule. I realize that you are a father and probably too close the situation to look at it objectively but no way should your son have been chosen over any qb on either roster. Sorry man just being objective about it. Maybe (on the too close to the situation comment..), but I looked up the stats on the qb's who played..not overly impressed, especially in those divisions. The MOAC Red is the toughest division around with those teams that played. Also, I only saw like 2 quarterbacks on each team's roster. I'm pretty sure last year's team had at least 3 on each team. Because Grant Loy was injured for the South's team last year. I thought Chase had his best game of the year against our last opponent, Pleasant. We lost "of course" but we put up 39 points on them. Not even Jonathan Alder put that much on them. Only Marion Harding put up more. All the other teams were at like 0, 6 and 7 points. That's got to say "a little" something, doesn't it? What about a QB going to college to play football? No...still? LOL Work with me here. OK. Let's start with he's going to B-W. It's D3 program. So long as your tuition check clears if you go out you are on the team, much like high school. When he's starting feel free to update us. No offense to D3 football. I played D3 football, but to be honest there were people on our roster and people I played against who couldn't have played on my high school team. Now granted we were state champions when I was in high school so take that with a grain of salt. If we're being honest though it's unlikely a qb from a 2-8 team gets on that roster. |
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Post by galion on Jun 16, 2017 20:29:29 GMT -5
I find it relatively funny that recent joiners of the MOAC know more about it then those that have been around it for 25 or more years. On the other hand, they might also just be blowing smoke. We didn't just drop in from Indiana. These are all area schools. Simply because we are "new" to the conference doesn't mean that we know nothing about the schools in it. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 16, 2017 20:50:43 GMT -5
The travel in the SBC is a big deal but if they give it a year, I believe it will be much better than they perceive. Plus, as you mention they are sacrificing some long-standing traditions and familiarity (even with some the new SBC schools) to join a group that has some shaky and indecisive members. I realize they have sporadically played some members of the MOAC but there is a lot of uncertainty there. Not sure I'd be making that leap of faith without some serious vetting, which they will do. As a Galion person I have been hoping Shelby and Galion would eventually end up in a league together again. The thing I wonder is it's mentioned about tradition for why Shelby should want to be in the SBC but yet the football division has none of the former NOL members in it. I think the lack of stability of the MOAC is overblown. NU hasn't been happy with Harding but there is plenty of stability with the others. This Galion fan is hoping Shelby goes to the MOAC. For some time Ontario has been hoping for a league that included Galion, Clear Fork and Shelby. Adjacent Districts to the West and North and a close LONG time rival in CF. Ontario would like to see Lex in the MOAC, but NU and Pleasant would complain more about them than they do about Harding |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jun 16, 2017 21:18:17 GMT -5
I find it relatively funny that recent joiners of the MOAC know more about it then those that have been around it for 25 or more years. On the other hand, they might also just be blowing smoke. What is much funnier is that scooty is telling MOAC members, old and new, what is wrong with and what's going to happen to the MOAC. When the district he lives in isn't a member nor will ever be and lives further from the center of the MOAC than any member school. In actuality he's been PO'd that Orrville and Clear Fork left the OCC and Shelby, Ontario and Galion chose not to join the OCC. That and the only school interested in joining the OCC was DI Mt Vernon. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 21:30:11 GMT -5
I find it relatively funny that recent joiners of the MOAC know more about it then those that have been around it for 25 or more years. On the other hand, they might also just be blowing smoke. We didn't just drop in from Indiana. These are all area schools. Simply because we are "new" to the conference doesn't mean that we know nothing about the schools in it. Very true. There have been lots of talking over the last couple years both officially and unofficial. Many on the inside and outside kof the MOAC have been involved. |
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Post by fbfan on Jun 17, 2017 5:33:31 GMT -5
Where is that roster located? It was hard to find. I had to google the name of the game and search a few articles. But I found it, couldn't tell you where now though. The North had two quarterbacks, one was from South Central....like 1200 passing yards..like 500 yards rushing..somewhere around there. I watched both guys films..one was just a rushing quarterback it looked like. He didn't have many passing plays on his film. I forget where the other was from. The "other" QB was from Wynford. I'm pretty sure he had some decent season stats, if that is how you're going to judge. |
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Post by galiontiger on Jun 17, 2017 14:59:20 GMT -5
Wasn't Galion on the south team? If so who played North QB shouldn't matter to you. You are correct. I was wrong. There was some people on the roster that wasn't initially in the papers. One choice from the MOAC who got selected. I agree with. He's a decent quarterback...Cardington QB. *** The Wynford QB was on the North's team. I never would think Chase would take his slot on the season he had. I agree. That's not who I was talking about, as the other qb. |
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Post by galiontiger on Jun 17, 2017 15:21:04 GMT -5
Maybe (on the too close to the situation comment..), but I looked up the stats on the qb's who played..not overly impressed, especially in those divisions. The MOAC Red is the toughest division around with those teams that played. Also, I only saw like 2 quarterbacks on each team's roster. I'm pretty sure last year's team had at least 3 on each team. Because Grant Loy was injured for the South's team last year. I thought Chase had his best game of the year against our last opponent, Pleasant. We lost "of course" but we put up 39 points on them. Not even Jonathan Alder put that much on them. Only Marion Harding put up more. All the other teams were at like 0, 6 and 7 points. That's got to say "a little" something, doesn't it? What about a QB going to college to play football? No...still? LOL Work with me here. OK. Let's start with he's going to B-W. It's D3 program. So long as your tuition check clears if you go out you are on the team, much like high school. When he's starting feel free to update us. No offense to D3 football. I played D3 football, but to be honest there were people on our roster and people I played against who couldn't have played on my high school team. Now granted we were state champions when I was in high school so take that with a grain of salt. If we're being honest though it's unlikely a qb from a 2-8 team gets on that roster. Well all I'm going to say about this comment...is #1. Chase's college is paid for this year ($16,732.00 check). He got granted the American Legion Legacy Scholarship. The scholarship is renewable for 6 years, based on family needs and the scholarship committee incoming money each year. So we are very grateful, he "at least" doesn't have to take any loans out this year. We will see how next year goes. #2. You know I didn't see much difference in Division II or Division III football. I guess the only thing that is visible is the size between the 2 divisions, but when you have to play Mount Union...you get to see that size (but Chase is 6'4") That's why every game I watched this year: Mount vs Heidelberg and Baldwin Wallace vs. Mount Union the score at halftime was close..10-7 or like 14-10...but then in the 2nd half its a blow-out due to how HUGE Mount Union's line is. ha! But I also watched Ohio Dominican vs. Ashland. I didn't see like a ton of difference in quality. Now Div. 2 does has their own playmakers...Ashland's HUGE tight-end. I'm just excited about this next football season. Some parents never get to see their son continue to play football. I probably wouldn't have cared if it was flag football actually. But to go down up to Berea next Friday for Chase's orientation and get me a whole bunch of BW attire is going to be fabulous. I just can't wait to root that team on. Now what the future holds for Chase..who knows. I'm just excited about everything. I just wish he could have played against the area's best. I personally feel he's just the best quarterback in this area, other than the Shelby's quarterback who is a better over-all QB due to his speed. (Chase doesn't throw a lot of interceptions though. We will see how he does at Baldwin Wallace, maybe he will turn out to be a dud .Who knows. LOL *** I will totally agree with you on your last comment though. Being on a losing team hurt his chances drastically...also Chase being hurt for 3-4 games too...killed him, but on talent only.....I just felt he should have gotten a chance to be on the team. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 19:06:31 GMT -5
D3 football can be really good but the difference between D2 and D3 similar to D1 and D2 is the depth of the roster. In D3 you will find a lot of guys listed that did very little in high school. They have some studs and maybe some local high school heroes but the roster is not full of them. D3 can literally take a chance on anyone. The only cost is the extra jersey.
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Post by galiontiger on Jun 17, 2017 22:59:10 GMT -5
D3 football can be really good but the difference between D2 and D3 similar to D1 and D2 is the depth of the roster. In D3 you will find a lot of guys listed that did very little in high school. They have some studs and maybe some local high school heroes but the roster is not full of them. D3 can literally take a chance on anyone. The only cost is the extra jersey. Thanks for the insight. I simply can't wait to see him and his team play some more football for the next 4 years. Go get 'em Yellow Jackets! LOVE FOOTBALL!!!! |
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Post by 4 on Jun 18, 2017 17:50:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't blow chase up like he's the best in the area. He has potential and a pretty good ball on em. His receivers were bad but he has bad decision making, as in when to throw the ball and run and such. Better seasons then his I would have to put Spaulding, Sayre, Mccarrel and Warner. D3 anyone that wants on the team and has the grades will get on. Most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 6:48:22 GMT -5
BW had 8 players listed as QB last season. Four of them freshman.
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