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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 19, 2017 16:47:35 GMT -5
Very gifted athletes from North Central/North West Ohio that I can remember seeing play Professional Sports.
NFL - Orlando Pace, Ben Rothlesberger, Charles Woodson, Micah Hyde, Charlie Frye, Hugh Douglas, OJ McDuffie, Raymont Harris, Bobby Hoying, William White, Bob Brudzinski, Rob Lytle, Thom Darden, Jim Lachey.
NBA - Jamie Feich, Scott May, Larry Siegfried
Baseball - Marc Wilkins, JB Shuck, Chad Billingsly, Gates Brown, Aubrey Huff, John Roseberry, Paul Shuey.
True "freak" athletes, they played at the highest level.
There could be many more.
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Post by galion on Sept 20, 2017 7:22:20 GMT -5
I haven't even brought up your Ontario football coach during this thread. You're the one who seems not to be able to stop talking about him(whether you use his name or not). I guess if I just said the Ontario football coach in my posts I could make that claim too. Kind of immature on your part if you ask me, but to each his own. You said that the Ontario qb "was comparable to Watkins as a soph, already a better passer than Watkins." I simply rebutted that point. Quite frankly your evaluation of qb talent on your posts about JT demonstrates your lack of knowledge on this subject. I never saw Braxton in high school so I wouldn't comment on him. The fact is Watkins was considered a D1 athlete from the time he was a freshman. He was recruited by multiple power 5 conference schools.Can you say the same for your qb? If not the talent comparison ends there.
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Post by galion on Sept 20, 2017 7:28:44 GMT -5
For the record NEITHER DID I. As a matter of fact I've never used his name, while you've blathered it all over this football forum in a hater fashion. Believing and quoting the inaccuracies of an immature teenager. You of all people should know better and be above that.
You SHOUD sorry, your post used falsehoods again. According to Websters "several" means more than 2. I only see 2. And they're questionable. This is the first time I've heard anyone say Galion DID have have a job for him. Did this newly heard of job offer exist every year? Another questionable statement on your part. Watkins scholarship offer WAS NOT to play QB, the position he played in high school. I NEVER used the term "freak athlete" to describe Ontario's QB. Watkins was a WR playing QB. If my memory serves Watkins on occasions played WR and caught passes thrown to him by the 2nd string QB, to get him the ball in space. Ontario's QB IS a QB and similar in size to Watkins when he was a Soph. As a Soph Ontario's QB is a much better passer than Watkins was when he was a Soph. IMO "freak" is a stretch for Watkins, since he went to a low level Big Ten school. Top 10 programs get most of TRUE "freak" athletes. The next 15 get the rest of the TRUE "freaks". Braxton Miller was a TRUE freak athlete. So much so that he played QB in high school and QB at a Top Five program in college primarily due to his TRUE freakish running abilities.. PLEASE, since Watkins WAS NOT a QB, being a better passer than Watkins does not automatically get you an offer from a Big Ten school to play QB. Watkins NEVER would have played QB for a Big Ten school. BTW, how long did Watkins attend the Big Ten school that he committed to? How much football did he play in college at ANY level? Maybe you aren't aware that it takes MUCH more than being a supposed "freak" athlete to play a sport in college. You're probably right Willard, I was just a 2 time All-American and in my college's athletic HOF. I probably am not aware of what it takes to play a sport in college. |
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Post by usa70pp on Sept 20, 2017 10:19:32 GMT -5
^^^
And your college was? Serious question.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 12:48:43 GMT -5
Come on galion, you think just because you have walked the walk you are aware of what a college athlete is? Have you watched these kids since back before they had leg hair? If not then you need to just kneel down to the Stephen A Smith of the NCOAST who knows all. (sarcasm intended)
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 20, 2017 19:12:17 GMT -5
Coach Hawkins always told me that Galion couldn't offer him a teaching positions..maybe it was due to the cap on the money or whatever. He didn't like the fact that Galion school system did not support "the financial aspects" to the football program. He didn't like that. When I met him at a kid's graduation party the summer when he took the Ontario position he was braggin on how much Ontario (school) supported the team. He talked about a scoreboard or something that they were getting new. I didn't pay very well attention to what he was saying..just the point. haha! I know he was extremely happy, and in turn I'm happy for him. He was a great coach...except for thay 4th and one try in the playoffs...uuugghhh! I'll never forget that bad call. LOL
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 20, 2017 22:05:03 GMT -5
BTW, how long did Watkins attend the Big Ten school that he committed to? How much football did he play in college at ANY level? Maybe you aren't aware that it takes MUCH more than being a supposed "freak" athlete to play a sport in college. You're probably right Willard, I was just a 2 time All-American and in my college's athletic HOF. I probably am not aware of what it takes to play a sport in college. Then use your great athletic abilities to answer the questions posed about Watkins instead of ignoring them. |
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Post by galion on Sept 21, 2017 3:59:27 GMT -5
^^^ And your college was? Serious question. OWU |
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Post by galion on Sept 21, 2017 4:03:41 GMT -5
You're probably right Willard, I was just a 2 time All-American and in my college's athletic HOF. I probably am not aware of what it takes to play a sport in college. Then use your great athletic abilities to answer the questions posed about Watkins instead of ignoring them. Because a kid makes some poor choices in regards to college somehow diminishes his athletic abilities in high school? There's no arguing with that logic. More to the point with all of your many sources in Galion that apparently keep you in the know about everything except Galion staff openings YOU ALREADY KNOW the answers to the questions that you asked. |
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 21, 2017 11:04:06 GMT -5
Then use your great athletic abilities to answer the questions posed about Watkins instead of ignoring them. Because a kid makes some poor choices in regards to college somehow diminishes his athletic abilities in high school? There's no arguing with that logic. More to the point with all of your many sources in Galion that apparently keep you in the know about everything except Galion staff openings YOU ALREADY KNOW the answers to the questions that you asked. I would agree that DW was a freak athlete. I thought that was pretty obvious to everyone but apparently not. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 11:10:25 GMT -5
21 confirmed D1 offers should speak for itself. No way to tell how many more would have come in since they stop once he committed to Northwestern.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 11:15:12 GMT -5
Coach Hawkins always told me that Galion couldn't offer him a teaching positions..maybe it was due to the cap on the money or whatever. He didn't like the fact that Galion school system did not support "the financial aspects" to the football program. He didn't like that. When I met him at a kid's graduation party the summer when he took the Ontario position he was braggin on how much Ontario (school) supported the team. He talked about a scoreboard or something that they were getting new. I didn't pay very well attention to what he was saying..just the point. haha! I know he was extremely happy, and in turn I'm happy for him. He was a great coach...except for thay 4th and one try in the playoffs...uuugghhh! I'll never forget that bad call. LOL He may not have been speaking about the "school" so much and more about the generous booster that Ontario currently has.  |
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Post by 4 on Sept 21, 2017 11:31:43 GMT -5
21 confirmed D1 offers should speak for itself. No way to tell how many more would have come in since they stop once he committed to Northwestern. offers don't stop once you're committed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 12:49:36 GMT -5
21 confirmed D1 offers should speak for itself. No way to tell how many more would have come in since they stop once he committed to Northwestern. offers don't stop once you're committed. I know a few college coaches that will tell you once a kids commits to a school they have not made offers. Most recruits will tell you once they make a commitment they no longer receive the calls from schools like they did before. |
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Post by 7up on Sept 21, 2017 15:16:55 GMT -5
21 confirmed D1 offers should speak for itself. No way to tell how many more would have come in since they stop once he committed to Northwestern. who commited to Northwestern? If I may ask. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2017 15:20:54 GMT -5
Then use your great athletic abilities to answer the questions posed about Watkins instead of ignoring them. Because a kid makes some poor choices in regards to college somehow diminishes his athletic abilities in high school? There's no arguing with that logic. More to the point with all of your many sources in Galion that apparently keep you in the know about everything except Galion staff openings YOU ALREADY KNOW the answers to the questions that you asked. Indeed, but unlike you I don't talk about negative specifics of individuals on a public forum. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2017 15:28:18 GMT -5
Coach Hawkins always told me that Galion couldn't offer him a teaching positions..maybe it was due to the cap on the money or whatever. He didn't like the fact that Galion school system did not support "the financial aspects" to the football program. He didn't like that. When I met him at a kid's graduation party the summer when he took the Ontario position he was braggin on how much Ontario (school) supported the team. He talked about a scoreboard or something that they were getting new. I didn't pay very well attention to what he was saying..just the point. haha! I know he was extremely happy, and in turn I'm happy for him. He was a great coach...except for thay 4th and one try in the playoffs...uuugghhh! I'll never forget that bad call. LOL He may not have been speaking about the "school" so much and more about the generous booster that Ontario currently has. Too be accurate, boosterS. Only since you broached the subject. Over $1 million spent/will spend on weight room, soccer complex, baseball field, football stadium, field house and a new all weather track. Ye ask and ye shall receive.  |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2017 15:38:23 GMT -5
Because a kid makes some poor choices in regards to college somehow diminishes his athletic abilities in high school? There's no arguing with that logic. More to the point with all of your many sources in Galion that apparently keep you in the know about everything except Galion staff openings YOU ALREADY KNOW the answers to the questions that you asked. I would agree that DW was a freak athlete. I thought that was pretty obvious to everyone but apparently not. I guess my definition of "freak" athlete is a little more stringent so as not to diminish others. IMO "freak" athletes are the ones who make it to the profession level, the Olympics or at least college All-Americans at the Div1 level. |
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 21, 2017 16:37:23 GMT -5
I would agree that DW was a freak athlete. I thought that was pretty obvious to everyone but apparently not. I guess my definition of "freak" athlete is a little more stringent so as not to diminish. IMO "freak" athletes are the ones who make it to the profession level, the Olympics or at least college All-Americans at the Div1 level. That makes sense. But in order to reach those levels that you're talking about, you also have to be incredibly skilled. When I call somebody a freak athlete I am speaking just about their athleticism not their skill level. And IMO DW was a freak athlete. |
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Post by gt1975 on Sept 21, 2017 16:38:37 GMT -5
21 confirmed D1 offers should speak for itself. No way to tell how many more would have come in since they stop once he committed to Northwestern. who commited to Northwestern? If I may ask. DW (galion graduate) committed to Northwestern before later changing to Wisconsin. |
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Post by galiontiger on Sept 21, 2017 18:23:20 GMT -5
DW..committed to Northwestern..popped on the uranlysis in high school..Northwestern boots him. Wisconsin picks him up. Leaves Wisconsin...team..says "get your head straight with the gf..have fun for a couple days, then come back ready for football..goes back...stays for a couple days, then comes back home again. Wisconsin..boots him. He goes to Tiffin University for a just a bit, then quits football. Is that correct story?? That's what I heard. The kid was amazing athlete. He didn't impress me as a quarterback, but he was a beast. Got recruited for like a safety or corner-back I think.
Is there more to this story? From what I saw (actually on FB - yeeeahhh)...he had a problem with drugs..NO??? Kid had a bunch of talent. Sad story, probably one he will regret later in life...maybe not. Who knows? Dad is a SUPER NICE guy.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 21, 2017 18:51:29 GMT -5
After Soph Cam Todd's first 4 games he's thrown for 782 yards 9 TD's and only 1 INT.
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Post by 7up on Sept 22, 2017 10:45:28 GMT -5
After Soph Cam Todd's first 4 games he's thrown for 782 yards 9 TD's and only 1 INT. I will say this Cam Todd will be a Division 1 Quarterback I have NEVER in my many years watching high school football seen such a poised SOPH QB especially under pressure. I gave him a lot of credit for playing injured also it shows he is a leader and wants to win. All I kept hearing going into this game (Harding) was Pensante this that blah,but I could go on and on about Cam Todd. I'm going to make it a point to go watch him for his junior and senior years I like him that much!He carried himself like a senior then I hear he's a soph I couldn't believe it, all I could say is WOW. And then I got real excited lol because I'm definitely looking forward to watching his career for sure. Willard I believe he's being looked over because of Pensante not saying he (Pensante) is not a awesome athlete but Todd's name should be in the mix more often he's definitely the best QB in the MOAC without a doubt. |
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Post by 7up on Sept 22, 2017 10:49:47 GMT -5
Maybe not a big D1 like OSU but wouldn't count out a big 1AA like Youngstown state or something
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 8:37:50 GMT -5
I guess my definition of "freak" athlete is a little more stringent so as not to diminish. IMO "freak" athletes are the ones who make it to the profession level, the Olympics or at least college All-Americans at the Div1 level. That makes sense. But in order to reach those levels that you're talking about, you also have to be incredibly skilled. When I call somebody a freak athlete I am speaking just about their athleticism not their skill level. And IMO DW was a freak athlete. There are many pro athletes that are not considered "freakish athlete" but are just very good at their job or have a skill that very few possess. I would not call Tom Brady a freak athlete. Nor do I see Cal Ripken Jr are a freak athlete, or Pete Rose. All were or are very good at what their jobs. To me, DW was a freak athlete. |
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Post by 7up on Sept 25, 2017 1:18:44 GMT -5
I wanna know how in the helllll North Union beats Ontario?  ? Did Ontario QB or #11 go down? Did North Union get some kids that transfered in from Ohio State, because last year they were absolutely horrible Varsity,JV and Freshman . Seeing this loss has me really wondering WTH is up. Can someone please answer |
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I wanna know how in the helllll North Union beats Ontario? ? Did Ontario QB or #11 go down? Did North Union get some kids that transfered in from Ohio State, because last year they were absolutely horrible Varsity,JV and Freshman . Seeing this loss has me really wondering WTH is up. Can someone please answer i dont know but i know watching the Harding game Ontario just seems to give up when they get down its werid i was telling my brother in that game why are they panicking and throwing the ball non stop when they were tearing us up with the run... they were only down 4 but seems like they were down 21... dont know if its coaching or what but 11 for Ontario is a beast that they dont use enough |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 26, 2017 14:10:30 GMT -5
I wanna know how in the helllll North Union beats Ontario? ? Did Ontario QB or #11 go down? Did North Union get some kids that transfered in from Ohio State, because last year they were absolutely horrible Varsity,JV and Freshman . Seeing this loss has me really wondering WTH is up. Can someone please answer Ontario receivers had 8 dropped passes. NU has a big O-line, and a power run game that Ontario could not stop in the 4th quarter. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 14:18:53 GMT -5
Half way into the fall season and admins are having talks about the future of changing leagues. Interesting.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Sept 26, 2017 14:20:08 GMT -5
I wanna know how in the helllll North Union beats Ontario? ? Did Ontario QB or #11 go down? Did North Union get some kids that transfered in from Ohio State, because last year they were absolutely horrible Varsity,JV and Freshman . Seeing this loss has me really wondering WTH is up. Can someone please answer i dont know but i know watching the Harding game Ontario just seems to give up when they get down its werid i was telling my brother in that game why are they panicking and throwing the ball non stop when they were tearing us up with the run... they were only down 4 but seems like they were down 21... dont know if its coaching or what but 11 for Ontario is a beast that they dont use enough Ontario's tailback and leading tackler in the MOAC has a shoulder injury that limits his ability to carry the ball without fumbling or tackling with his shuolder. So they moved the TE to TB and now always use 4 WRs. The tailback with the bad shoulder was moved to Offensive guard and Middle guard since they have players injured at those positions. |
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