MOAC 2017

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Oct 28, 2017 22:45:46 GMT -5 galion said:

Oct 28, 2017 0:41:14 GMT -5 Willard Fillmore said:

CF QB is a MUCH better runner, Cam Todd is a better passer. Injured in the 6th game. In 5 and half, games had 13 TD passes with only 3 INTs. CF QB isn't listed in MOAC passing leaders.

Because they platooned their qb's for the first part of the season.

Good point.

[babymaker]

All Conference Teams

First Team-Defense

Matt Chase             Pleasant

Trevon Trammell     Clear Fork

Teren Wycoff          Buckeye Valley

Jacob Bailey           Clear Fork

Nick Arnold            Ontario

Joey Verdes           Buckeye Valley

Seth Tyler              Marion Harding

Anthony Padovano  North Union

Drake Facione        Marion Harding

Daniel Spencer      Clear Fork

Colton Clark          North Union

Brayden Stark       Pleasant

[4]

Just looked at teams. About how I was thinking they’d be. Rv has no one on either first team.

[4]

Galion has no one on 1st or 2nd team. , Ivy on HM

[babymaker]

HM is purely a coaches pick.
Not how you thought they would be? Good or bad?

[4]

No I was saying they ended up about how I thought it would. I agree with the picks.

[galiontiger]

Now I didn't follow the league this year except for 2 games I did go to, but tell me how the leading receiver in the league (Buckeye Valley - Joey Verdes) gets 1st team offense with 18 more catches for the season than Takoda Crisman who gets no recognition?? Takoda Crisman had a little more than half of Verdes's touchdowns and even more yards than Verdes had on 18 less catches. That makes no sense to me. A guy who gets 1st team offense catches the ball 49 times and only scores 4 touchdowns for the season? The bar is set pretty low. Crisman should have at least got 2nd team offense. The kid had 23.6 yards per catch.

[Willard Fillmore]

Nov 2, 2017 6:53:58 GMT -5 @scooter said:

Oct 28, 2017 22:45:46 GMT -5 galion said:

Because they platooned their qb's for the first part of the season.

Good point.

He runs the ball 4 times more often than he passes. He's a TB playing QB. As is often the case in a run first and run second offense 

[babymaker]

Nov 6, 2017 18:14:41 GMT -5 galiontiger said:

Now I didn't follow the league this year except for 2 games I did go to, but tell me how the leading receiver in the league (Buckeye Valley - Joey Verdes) gets 1st team offense with 18 more catches for the season than Takoda Crisman who gets no recognition?? Takoda Crisman had a little more than half of Verdes's touchdowns and even more yards than Verdes had on 18 less catches. That makes no sense to me. A guy who gets 1st team offense catches the ball 49 times and only scores 4 touchdowns for the season? The bar is set pretty low. Crisman should have at least got 2nd team offense. The kid had 23.6 yards per catch.

At some point you will figure this out... Its not based on stats solely. 1st a coach has to put the kid up for 1st team consideration. 2nd you need to get more votes than anyone else. 3rd you have to leave an impression on coaches (see #2). 4th win some games.

Good teams get more kids on 1st and 2nd team. 

I will say this you will be surprised the # of coaches that don't even put kids up.

Stats that were put up during non league can help or hurt you depending on how they do in league.

[gatesofbabylon25]

Nov 6, 2017 21:56:48 GMT -5 babymaker said:

Nov 6, 2017 18:14:41 GMT -5 galiontiger said:

BM is correct GT. It's not all stats lead

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Stats are a big part of it but not all of it.

[usa70pp]

galiontiger,
What's the latest on Chase?

[galiontiger]

Nov 7, 2017 11:40:42 GMT -5 usa70pp said:

galiontiger,
What's the latest on Chase?

He finished out his JV season. The first 3 of 7 games he was only getting like 2 series to do what he could do...and it usually was in the 3rd or 4th quarter. He was looking so uncomfortable and bad. LOL The last 4 games, Chase really came on. He was throwing for more yards then the Sophomore on the team (who is pretty darn good QB too.) Chase started drawing 4-6 series a game and was coming in during the 2nd Qtr then. He just has to learn not to try and do too much. He wants to scramble around side-to-side too much. But with his big arm, he always seem to make the throw when it's like 3rd down and 15. LOL  BW has this play they like to do with him. He's steps forward like he's going to run, and then he zips it across the middle to wide-open receiver. I swear it fools the defense every time.  When Chase broke out, it was his 4th game of the season against John Carroll, they brought Chase in, and we were down like 21-3. Chase threw for over 100 yards in 2 series. We just barely lost to them 21-18. His team only won 2 games out of 7, but they won the last game of the season, 20-7 over Heidelberg..a team who beat them 24-0 in game 3.  We also just lost to Case Western by one point (28-27) after Chase led them down for a touchdown, and we let them score with like 12 secs in the game, they went for the 2-point conversion and made it (the QB dove in mid air for the endzone stripe. He lost the ball in mid air but they say the ball crossed the line first. it was sooo close.) So Chase's team really started playing better at the end of the season. It was a fun year.

Personally, Chase is looking so much better now running the plays. He looks so much more composed "when" he has time to get rid of it. Chase is also getting bigger and faster now too. His knee has held out fabulously. I was really worried too. Baldwin Wallace varsity team is sitting at 6-3 now with a Junior QB. Hell! They were 2-8 I think last year. They aren't making any changes next year at QB. Though the coaches really like Chase. They are ALWAYS telling him (and even me) a bunch of stuff about next year. One coach told Chase that he had more raw talent than that big tight-end from Ashland last year who is playing in the NFL now. I think they might be over-hyping Chase a bit too soon. haha! I think they just want him to stay there and not leave. ha! Of course I always had dreams for him to play Division I or Division II football, but unfortunately its not about me. Though it should be. hahah! I told him I would make some calls if he wanted me too, but he likes being at Baldwin Wallace. I saw the last week that Tiffin was down to their 3rd string QB, and they start a redshirt freshman the whole season. Chase had an option to go to Tiffin too. But Baldwin Wallace is soooo much better of a college/campus than Tiffin is. That's a dreary campus.  I still think Chase is going to be an amazing quarterback in any Division. He just has all the tools you would want in college QB, if he can just remain focused, keep learning the plays and get some game-time experience. ....oooh he's doing great in his college courses so far too. Sooooo proud of him!!!

[usa70pp]

Good on Chase. Sounds as if he is going to be fine.

[usa70pp]

All-Central District football teams
D2 1st team defense
Facione MH
2nd team D
Thompson
Tyler
Honorable mention
Booker
Fraker
Hamilton

D3 1st team offense
Davies BV
Verdes
Rotondo
1st Defense
Wycoff
2nd O
Owens

D4 1st offense
Blevins RV
Cooper
2nd O
Spears

D5 1st Offense
Blubaugh PL
Tipsword
Thompson
Smith NU
Sovick

1st D
Chase PL
Enders
Pytlarz
Clark NU
Padovano
2nd O
Miller NU
2nd D
Stark PL
Cox-Wilson NU
Hughes
Special/Honorable Mention
Wolfe PL
Price NU
Rowland
Willis

Defensive Player of the Year D5
Matt Chase Pleasant

Nice going fellows

[moacmama]

Thank you for posting that and congratulations to Matt Chase. Good luck to Pleasant on Friday.

[4]

GT, after chases sophomore year if he doesn’t have a chance at QB1 I would look elsewhere. I also heard about tiffin running through QBs, but to play on the D2 level is even solid. D2 isn’t a big drop off from d1 in some Perspectives. Just my opinion tho. Hope he works well in offseason, that’s the key. Like to see moac kids do well at next level!

[galiontiger]

No, I totally understand. I can't see Chase beating out the senior QB next year, though they have told Chase he could be a 3-year starter for BW.  The current QB has been their starter since mid-way thru his sophomore year. He looks to me as a solid QB. If I was the coach, I'd really struggle benching a senior QB with that much experience over a Sophomore QB coming up. I expect Chase to still be on the JV team next year to get more experience, then taking over his Junior year. I guess we will have to wait and see. (Baldwin Wallace has sophomore QB now who is definitely not bad also. The difference with Chase all the other BW QB's including the starter. Is Chase has such a strong arm, and it shows in all the throws he makes. The ball gets there so much quicker, even on little 5 yard dump passes. It's not even close compared to the other QB's.)

I don't know if Chase could play as a 5th year senior or not in Division III (?) But I don't see Chase leaving Baldwin Wallace, because he just doesn't want to start over. He loves the Baldwin Wallace. Who can blame him?  There's only two ways he would leave: 1. If he came to me and said see what's out there for him or 2. Some team has been following his grades this year. (there was a few team interested in at one time: Bowling Green, Kent State, Findlay, Tiffin and Ohio Dominican.) A lot of them lost interested when they found out his grades, so maybe one will contact him. But then again it's HIGHLY unlikely, and hell I don't know it might even be illegal to contact a player on another team..maybe not illegal but probably unethical. ..another thing Chase could start over though..he has an advantage over other kids...He got that American Legion Legacy Scholarship, that scholarship is suppose to be "possibly" renewed up to 6 years (based on his financial needs and the money donated that year). It paid for everything this year, except $600.

I'm going to try and post a HUDL video of the some of the last 3 games where he started to really to come on. I follow all the MOAC guys too..and a couple other guys who weren't in the MOAC but are on division 1 teams too.

[redrage2014]

It is possible to play any sport at the D3 level in your 5th year. Athletes have 10 semesters of eligibility. However you can only compete in 4 of those semesters for a single sport. Competing is considered practicing after the first athletic competition takes place. This is information that should have been given to Chase before any practices at the beginning of the season. Every athlete at the D3 level, and I'm assuming the other divisions as well, have to sit through about 2 hours of mandatory NCAA information and paperwork.

[galiontiger]

thanks for the information..redrange

[4]

I seen Hardings drake facione led the state of Ohio in sacks, and was first team all state. Really wish that kid would get a chance at D1

[babymaker]

Nov 13, 2017 11:50:16 GMT -5 4 said:

I seen Hardings drake facione led the state of Ohio in sacks, and was first team all state. Really wish that kid would get a chance at D1

Where do you find those stats at?

1st team all state has yet to be announced.

As far as I know the only kid guaranteed to be 1st team is Matt Chase as Central District Def play of the year.

[4]

I seen stats on a printout, not sure if was credible source. 20 would be a number to lead the state tho. And they haven’t ? I seen on a video of his highlights that was posted to Facebook. I figured he’d get 1st-2nd

[babymaker]

I want to see the print out lol...

[4]

And accounting to max preps the leader has 16.5, which prob isn’t getting all the stats because he has 20. But who knows. I’ve just seen the print out at work and heard from a couple people and his highlight video. When does all state come out officially ?

[babymaker]

Max prep is missing a ton of schools, of what has been reported he is defiantly top of that list.

I think all state come out this week.

[usa70pp]

Gear-up at Harding reports that Facione was accepted at Columbia.

[4]

Very smart kid, very. I’m sure he has a few he’s been accepted at. Probably just weighing his options.

[babymaker]

Who was MOAC POY?

[usa70pp]

From the MOAC website.
The Fall Sports Banquets will be held at the All-Occasions Banquet Hall located at 6989 Waldo-Delaware Rd, Waldo, OH 43356. The MOAC Conference will honor the Student-Athletes of their respective fall sports on November 15th at 6:00 PM.

POY probably was announced last night.