2017 Lake Division

[1percenter]

Here are Drew Pasteur's rankings for Lake Division teams in 2016. Who's going to improve, who's going to stay about the same and who's going to be a little worse?

126.3, #82 in the State, 10-2 Sandusky
121.1 #121 in the State, 8-3 Clyde
119.1, #140 in the State, 7-4 Bellevue
111.9, #211 in the State, 5-5 Perkins
111.5, #217 in the State, 6-4 Norwalk
97.7, #397 in the State, 2-8 Tiffin Columbian

Sandusky was Pasteur's 13th most improved team in the State of Ohio last year with a +20.3. Are any of these teams capable of making a jump like that in 2017?

3 teams from this division made the playoffs in 2016, how many will make it in 2017?

[footballfan]

This is going to be a great league. Good job SBC in forming this and doing such a great job making things better for your area schools that joined and to all the balless schools that won't play our school that is the same size = division IV!!!! It's a joke. The travel doesn't bother me as a fan but it sure doesn't help the schools for transportation expenses for the next two years.
Week #1 = vs Canton Central Catholic (1hr 52min drive)
Week #2 = @ Clear Fork (1hr 20min drive)
Week #3 = @ West Holmes (1hr 40min drive)
Week #4 = @ Shelby (only 50min drive not bad but the only way they would play us is if we played them as Shelby next year which makes us have 6 away games and we played at Shelby this year)
Week #5 = vs Toledo Start (1hr 6min)
Remaining league games against all Division III schools which we have played for years and a great test for our football team.

Division IV schools in bay league that won't play us!
port Clinton
oak harbor
vermillion
huron (said they couldn't get out of contract with another school, I'm sure that broke there heart)

Good luck BIGRED!!!!

[galion]

Why should other schools be required to play you? Also, why jump on Shelby for not wanting top play 6 away games? In addition, the first 3 weeks of the season are your own damn fault. Virtually every team in the state is scheduling ooc games these weeks if you can't find closer opportunities that that it's simply poor planning by your athletic dept.

[Deleted]

Dec 24, 2016 20:29:34 GMT -5 footballfan said:

This is going to be a great league. Good job SBC in forming this and doing such a great job making things better for your area schools that joined and to all the balless schools that won't play our school that is the same size = division IV!!!! It's a joke. The travel doesn't bother me as a fan but it sure doesn't help the schools for transportation expenses for the next two years.
Week #1 = vs Canton Central Catholic (1hr 52min drive)
Week #2 = @ Clear Fork (1hr 20min drive)
Week #3 = @ West Holmes (1hr 40min drive)
Week #4 = @ Shelby (only 50min drive not bad but the only way they would play us is if we played them as Shelby next year which makes us have 6 away games and we played at Shelby this year)
Week #5 = vs Toledo Start (1hr 6min)
Remaining league games against all Division III schools which we have played for years and a great test for our football team.

Division IV schools in bay league that won't play us!
port Clinton
oak harbor
vermillion
huron (said they couldn't get out of contract with another school, I'm sure that broke there heart)

Good luck BIGRED!!!!

You are seriously still bitching about the schedule? Tell you what why don't you try going independent and see how the works out for you.

[Deleted]

Shelby may still not want to be making that drive as they continue to keep their eyes open.

[footballfan]

I would like to think the AD tried getting closer games and my point is the three divisions is giving everyone 5 non-league games which is tough when most leagues have 7 league games and 3 non-league games! Which makes it tough and bighoss us going independent would be dumber then this league having to schedule 5 non-league games seriously! I wasn't jumping on Shelby I was just making a point about us having 6 away games. You always like to see it at 5 and 5. I would be surprised if Shelby and Bellevue stopped playing each other. It has been a good rivalry all these years. I also heard that Shelby is building a new stadium for the 2018 season. Any truth to that?

[A no.1]

I highly doubt that the only reason Shelby playing Bellevue next year was if the game is at Shelby. The reason Bellevue returns to Shelby next season is the same reason Shelby plays at Willard again, it's because of the new league. As long as Erik Will is the coach at Shelby I believe the series will continue as he has great respect for the Bellevue program and embraces the football history between the two schools.

As for a new stadium, at some point it will happen. I just don't think it will happen in 2018. The home stands at Skiles have about 5-10 years left before they will need to be replaced. This was according to the district building and grounds manager.

[A no.1]

Dec 25, 2016 8:50:53 GMT -5 @scooter said:

Shelby may still not want to be making that drive as they continue to keep their eyes open.

This is true. If the MOAC ever decides to expand to 10 schools (when/if Upper Sandusky gets booted from the N10), Shelby will leave the SBC. 

[footballfan]

I can see Shelby leaving as well. It makes good sense do to the travel they have being in the SBC. And I'm sure part of the reason Shelby is playing Bellevue is do to the fact they are coming to Shelby which makes Shelby have five home and five away games. It makes sense for a AD to try to keep it that way. I'm surprised Willard agreed to playing Shelby still do to the fact of where Shelby's program is at compared to a real bad Willard program! No points for playoff spot gained by a DVI win unless Willard has a decent season next year sense they will be in a league with the same size school they are.

[Deleted]

I'm hearing they have already decided, it's just finding 10 schools to agree on and if they want to make any other changes.

[footballfan]

If that does happen then I wonder what will happen with the bay division in the SBC. It would be real bad to only have four league games!

[Deleted]

IMO, it will be tough to keep 20+ schools happy in a league. I wonder if a few try this to see if it works but end up finding out they would rather be elsewhere and the end result in about 5 years is a big/little division league with cross over games of about 12-15 schools.

[Willard Fillmore]

Dec 24, 2016 20:29:34 GMT -5 footballfan said:

This is going to be a great league. Good job SBC in forming this and doing such a great job making things better for your area schools that joined and to all the balless schools that won't play our school that is the same size = division IV!!!! It's a joke. The travel doesn't bother me as a fan but it sure doesn't help the schools for transportation expenses for the next two years.
Week #1 = vs Canton Central Catholic (1hr 52min drive)
Week #2 = @ Clear Fork (1hr 20min drive)
Week #3 = @ West Holmes (1hr 40min drive)
Week #4 = @ Shelby (only 50min drive not bad but the only way they would play us is if we played them as Shelby next year which makes us have 6 away games and we played at Shelby this year)
Week #5 = vs Toledo Start (1hr 6min)
Remaining league games against all Division III schools which we have played for years and a great test for our football team.

Division IV schools in bay league that won't play us!
port Clinton
oak harbor
vermillion
huron (said they couldn't get out of contract with another school, I'm sure that broke there heart)

Good luck BIGRED!!!!

If the truth was known, I think you're a little butt hurt ending up in 3rd out of 7 in the NOL in its last year and getting beat soundly in the first round of the playoffs. BTW, how many times has PC, OH and Vermilion played Bellevue in the past 50 years when they had a chance? If I was Vermilion I wouldn't play Bellevue until you learned how to spell their name.

[Willard Fillmore]

Dec 25, 2016 13:18:32 GMT -5 footballfan said:

I can see Shelby leaving as well. It makes good sense do to the travel they have being in the SBC. And I'm sure part of the reason Shelby is playing Bellevue is do to the fact they are coming to Shelby which makes Shelby have five home and five away games. It makes sense for a AD to try to keep it that way. I'm surprised Willard agreed to playing Shelby still do to the fact of where Shelby's program is at compared to a real bad Willard program! No points for playoff spot gained by a DVI win unless Willard has a decent season next year sense they will be in a league with the same size school they are.

All schools playing Willard next year should have a chance to garner more Harbin Points than the past several years. Since Willard is in a Division with schools that are all considerably smaller than Willard  

[footballfan]

Willard it has nothing to do with our 2016 season and my point is the teams that could play us won't.  I'm pretty sure going 7-3 and making the playoffs is a good season.  Two loses coming from playoff teams!  I don't really care about your 50 year BS the schools won't play us and are the same size as us. Vermilion is the first team to jump up to the lake division sense they have a basketball program but they won't play us in football. It's a shame the league isn't going to be ran any better to make the league and game location make more sense. It's just my opinion. I thought the league was going to be a good thing for the area teams but I can see it's not. The non-league games are what worry me do to the fact you have five and you could end up with only 9 games schedule which I think happened to us one other year if I remember correct?!?!?

[Willard Fillmore]

Ask around what happened to the NCC when the league made schools play cross over games with no input from the schools involved.

In the future maybe Bellevue can get games scheduled with Fremont and Elyria. 

[footballfan]

I guess when you come into a league from the outside like the SBC your not a priority just be glade they took you and the teams that are in it already have a SBC schedule set. Bellevue gained nothing by joining do to the fact we would of already been playing all the teams in the Lake division anyway plus we play Shelby again. Maybe the league will keep expanding and pick up a couple more teams per division which could turn the league into one of best leagues around. Fremont could be a good one that make sense only being 18 minutes away but Elyria wouldn't be any better then some of the drives we will have now.

[Deleted]

Dec 26, 2016 10:17:41 GMT -5 footballfan said:

I guess when you come into a league from the outside like the SBC your not a priority just be glade they took you and the teams that are in it already have a SBC schedule set. Bellevue gained nothing by joining do to the fact we would of already been playing all the teams in the Lake division anyway plus we play Shelby again. Maybe the league will keep expanding and pick up a couple more teams per division which could turn the league into one of best leagues around. Fremont could be a good one that make sense only being 18 minutes away but Elyria wouldn't be any better then some of the drives we will have now.

Don't forget, you did not join the SBC because you could gain anything. You joined because your league was breaking up and your options were very limited.
Someone does always seem to be butt hurt, but I did not read your posts that way.

[redskinfan04]

Dec 24, 2016 20:29:34 GMT -5 footballfan said:

This is going to be a great league. Good job SBC in forming this and doing such a great job making things better for your area schools that joined and to all the balless schools that won't play our school that is the same size = division IV!!!! It's a joke. The travel doesn't bother me as a fan but it sure doesn't help the schools for transportation expenses for the next two years.
Week #1 = vs Canton Central Catholic (1hr 52min drive)
Week #2 = @ Clear Fork (1hr 20min drive)
Week #3 = @ West Holmes (1hr 40min drive)
Week #4 = @ Shelby (only 50min drive not bad but the only way they would play us is if we played them as Shelby next year which makes us have 6 away games and we played at Shelby this year)
Week #5 = vs Toledo Start (1hr 6min)
Remaining league games against all Division III schools which we have played for years and a great test for our football team.

Division IV schools in bay league that won't play us!
port Clinton
oak harbor
vermillion
huron (said they couldn't get out of contract with another school, I'm sure that broke there heart)

Good luck BIGRED!!!!

Quit your damn crying. Would you prefer to be independent traveling all over the state? Because that was Bellevue's other option. 

Port Clinton is playing Clyde, Sandusky and Norwalk from the Lake division. We play Bellevue for our preview and have for years now. If your going to point fingers and cry like a girl point them at Oak Harbor who wants no part of playing Lake division teams.

[1percenter]

Lake Division
#82 in the State, 10-2 Sandusky
#121 in the State, 8-3 Clyde
#140 in the State, 7-4 Bellevue
#211 in the State, 5-5 Perkins
#217 in the State, 6-4 Norwalk
#397 in the State, 2-8 Tiffin Columbian

Bay Division
#86 in the State, 12-2 Edison
#89 in the State, 11-2 Shelby
#122 in the State, 10-2 Port Clinton
#280 in the State, 5-5 Oak Harbor
#300 in the State, 3-7 Huron
#466 in the State, 2-8 Vermilion

River Division
#399 in the State, 6-4 Calvert
#520 in the State, 5-5 Margaretta
#559 in the State, 4-6 St Joe
#583 in the State, 2-8 SMCC
#588 in the State, 1-9 Willard
#646 in the State, 2-8 Lakota

Who are all these teams that should be stepping up to play Bellevue from the SBC? Maybe Bellevue should step up and play local schools like Lorain and Elyria.

[footballfan]

Your really going to make that statement when we are in a league with all DIII schools. LOL PC had week 2 open and didn't step up to play us!!!! There are five schools in the bay that should consider playing us that are the same size as us (to help the travel part) and at least Shelby is willing to play us,  but we've been playing them for a few years.  No crying here redskin just voicing my opinion!  And as fare as playing Clyde, Sandusky and Norwalk big deal we've been playing them for a few years now.  You should read more of my posts before you go running your mouth!  Shelby looks to be the Bay division favorites next year!!!! Between them and Edison.  IMO

[redskinfan04]

Dec 26, 2016 18:48:46 GMT -5 footballfan said:

Dec 26, 2016 15:48:45 GMT -5 redskinfan04 said:

Quit your damn crying. Would you prefer to be independent traveling all over the state? Because that was Bellevue's other option. 

Port Clinton is playing Clyde, Sandusky and Norwalk from the Lake division. We play Bellevue for our preview and have for years now. If your going to point fingers and cry like a girl point them at Oak Harbor who wants no part of playing Lake division teams.

This is coming from a fan of a team that wouldn't play us!  You need to read a little more of my thought on the league before you start running your mouth.  We have played those same teams for the last few years.  Big deal.  Who are your other two non-league games with.  Must be marshmallow teams or you would of listed them.  No crying here just stating my opinion jack-ss!!!!

I told you to quit your crying Bellevue boy.

If we wanted to dodge Bellevue we'd drop the preview and walk away. We are under no obligation to alter our schedule just to make Ed's and the Bellevue AD's life easier. If it helps your ego to say we refuse to play Bellevue then have at it. Just make sure you reserve the same amount of scorn for Oak Harbor and Edison. Edison schedules more cup cakes than anyone in the area. Oak Harbor is playing a powerhouse Woodmore team instead of Bellevue.

You played those same teams (Sandusky, Clyde and Norwalk) the last few years? Let me go get you a cookie for playing two teams in your league and your rival from five miles down the road. 

Our other two games are D5 Rossford and St.Joe in week 4. Rossford made it to the second round of the playoffs two years ago and should consistently win 5-8 games a year in a weak NBC. A nice playoff point producer for us and a game we should win more often than not. As for St.Joe, we needed a game to fill week 4 and they were open. Probably not a long term thing.

[Willard Fillmore]

If the NEW SBC had any balls they would have made two 9 school Divisions for football and there would have been no complaints about non-league games. Of course there would have been others complaining about something else. OR they could have had 4 Divisions which would have made 4 Champions, even better than 3.

In how many sports will there actually be an SBC LEAGUE Team Champion?

[redskinfan04]

Dec 26, 2016 19:08:21 GMT -5 footballfan said:

Your really going to make that statement when we are in a league with all DIII schools. LOL PC had week 2 open and didn't step up to play us!!!! There are five schools in the bay that should consider playing us that are the same size as us (to help the travel part) and at least Shelby is willing to play us,  but we've been playing them for a few years.  No crying here redskin just voicing my opinion!  And as fare as playing Clyde, Sandusky and Norwalk big deal we've been playing them for a few years now.  You should read more of my posts before you go running your mouth!  Shelby looks to be the Bay division favorites next year!!!! Between them and Edison.  IMO

Bellevue has been playing Norwalk and Shelby for a few years? You mean 70+ years right?

[footballfan]

It's been a long time. I think Shelby has a better season next year then they did this year. The Junior class has some good athletes. If I remember correct that class was the 10 year old LL All Star Champions. So there pretty good in baseball also. I know that has nothing to do with football but it is a very athletic class.

[runshoot]

Dec 26, 2016 19:08:21 GMT -5 footballfan said:

Your really going to make that statement when we are in a league with all DIII schools. LOL PC had week 2 open and didn't step up to play us!!!! There are five schools in the bay that should consider playing us that are the same size as us (to help the travel part) and at least Shelby is willing to play us,  but we've been playing them for a few years.  No crying here redskin just voicing my opinion!  And as fare as playing Clyde, Sandusky and Norwalk big deal we've been playing them for a few years now.  You should read more of my posts before you go running your mouth!  Shelby looks to be the Bay division favorites next year!!!! Between them and Edison.  IMO

Huron will play Bellevue in 2018-19 season. i believe in week 3     i also heard St Paul and Huron are going to get back together in 2019-20 season. 

[footballfan]

I can see Huron stepping up sense they were playing us on and off over the years. Like I said in a post earlier I heard they tried to get out of a contract to play us in 2017 but they couldn't get out of it. Hats off to them for trying. A 1 hour 40 minute drive verses 25 minute drive helps out our school travel expenses and get the local game back on the schedule. I'd rather give my money at the gate to Huron not West Holmes!!!! They are part of this SBC mega league that has been formed.

[maplecityjake]

Dec 26, 2016 16:14:42 GMT -5 1percenter said:

 Maybe Bellevue should step up and play local schools like Lorain and Elyria.

News to me that Elyria and Lorain are "local" to Bellevue. Fremont, most definitely.

At any rate, Bellevue did have a history with all 3 before the NOL formed, FWIW.

[Deleted]

Huron and St. Paul '19-'20 I hope not, And they're both not stupid to agree to it. St. Paul won't be able to bank off Huron's success, under this new regime, Huron gets nothing win or lose. It's a lose/lose for both, Don't agree to it please. Although, Huron is suppose to be falling back into D. V, next realignment. Fact: Huron did try to end the week 3 contract (home game) with Streetsboro. We're stuck with them, Sorry.

[runshoot]

Jan 14, 2017 10:47:50 GMT -5 @markmay said:

Huron and St. Paul '19-'20 I hope not, And they're both not stupid to agree to it. St. Paul won't be able to bank off Huron's success, under this new regime, Huron gets nothing win or lose. It's a lose/lose for both, Don't agree to it please. Although, Huron is suppose to be falling back into D. V, next realignment. Fact: Huron did try to end the week 3 contract (home game) with Streetsboro. We're stuck with them, Sorry.

Who do you want? Alabama?  You are as dumb as mark may!  it would benefit both.