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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:57:27 GMT -5
I know we are talking football. But Shelby going to MOAC??? I have a big problem with this, its basketball I believe it not just 2 girls games on Friday Its every other weekend!!!! Talent is not there with these teams also in ever sport!!!! I had heard thru the grapevine that others had similar concerns. Some directly connected were looking for a little more competitive place to end up and are still hoping it happens. |
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Post by galion on Jul 22, 2017 3:55:16 GMT -5
I guess I just didn't realize that Shelby was a basketball powerhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 5:13:39 GMT -5
I guess I just didn't realize that Shelby was a basketball powerhouse. I don't think anyone used that word, but changing schedules from the NOL to the MOAC in girls basketball may be a reduction in competition. |
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Post by galion on Jul 22, 2017 11:10:28 GMT -5
I thought we were discussing boys bball. Trust me, I'd have much preferred to be in the NOL for girls bball the last 2 years. Nobody in the NOL, not even Shelby, would have won the MOAC.
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Post by bigox on Jul 22, 2017 11:22:38 GMT -5
I thought we were discussing boys bball. Trust me, I'd have much preferred to be in the NOL for girls bball the last 2 years. Nobody in the NOL, not even Shelby, would have won the MOAC. I know this is a football thread buy your way off base. Unless your counting the schools like Cardington and nothmor from the other division NU and RV are the only two teams worth salt in the moac girls basketball. Shelby and Ontario will be tops in the new moac for some time based not the talent of teams in that league coming up. But if someone wants to debate that On the girls thread....Lol 😎😎 |
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Post by wallacefan on Jul 22, 2017 13:10:58 GMT -5
I thought we were discussing boys bball. Trust me, I'd have much preferred to be in the NOL for girls bball the last 2 years. Nobody in the NOL, not even Shelby, would have won the MOAC. I know this is a football thread buy your way off base. Unless your counting the schools like Cardington and nothmor from the other division NU and RV are the only two teams worth salt in the moac girls basketball. Shelby and Ontario will be tops in the new moac for some time based not the talent of teams in that league coming up. But if someone wants to debate that On the girls thread....Lol 😎😎 Uh....didn't Pleasant make the D3 State Title Game 2 years ago? They lost the District Final last year and won't be as strong, but they are no bums. As for Shelby GBB, they don't appear to have even won a District Title in a decade, and lost the D2 District Semi by 15 last year to Norwalk. So, when a team doesn't even have a District title in a decade, what makes them so historicallly dominant. Their VB got bounced in the first playoff game, BTW. So I'm not sure why there is a discussion about needing more competition. As for Ontario in GBB, they were bounced in District Semis as well, and have not played in a District Final since 2013. Not sure about either of their talent coming up, but still. Girls soccer is where Ontario will be dominant. And Boys Basketball. |
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Post by usa70pp on Jul 22, 2017 15:00:47 GMT -5
And Goliath will slay David.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 16:59:42 GMT -5
I thought we were discussing boys bball. Trust me, I'd have much preferred to be in the NOL for girls bball the last 2 years. Nobody in the NOL, not even Shelby, would have won the MOAC. sweathog mentioned girls so that's what I referenced. Either way, Galion has no dog that can hunt in boys or girls bball in the NOL or the MOAC. For Shelby both boys and girls bball could be looked at as a reduction in competition. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 17:02:30 GMT -5
I know this is a football thread buy your way off base. Unless your counting the schools like Cardington and nothmor from the other division NU and RV are the only two teams worth salt in the moac girls basketball. Shelby and Ontario will be tops in the new moac for some time based not the talent of teams in that league coming up. But if someone wants to debate that On the girls thread....Lol 😎😎 Uh....didn't Pleasant make the D3 State Title Game 2 years ago? They lost the District Final last year and won't be as strong, but they are no bums. As for Shelby GBB, they don't appear to have even won a District Title in a decade, and lost the D2 District Semi by 15 last year to Norwalk. So, when a team doesn't even have a District title in a decade, what makes them so historicallly dominant. Their VB got bounced in the first playoff game, BTW. So I'm not sure why there is a discussion about needing more competition. As for Ontario in GBB, they were bounced in District Semis as well, and have not played in a District Final since 2013. Not sure about either of their talent coming up, but still. Girls soccer is where Ontario will be dominant. And Boys Basketball. You must be forgetting that Clear Fork has girls soccer. |
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Post by wallacefan on Jul 22, 2017 17:07:20 GMT -5
Uh....didn't Pleasant make the D3 State Title Game 2 years ago? They lost the District Final last year and won't be as strong, but they are no bums. As for Shelby GBB, they don't appear to have even won a District Title in a decade, and lost the D2 District Semi by 15 last year to Norwalk. So, when a team doesn't even have a District title in a decade, what makes them so historicallly dominant. Their VB got bounced in the first playoff game, BTW. So I'm not sure why there is a discussion about needing more competition. As for Ontario in GBB, they were bounced in District Semis as well, and have not played in a District Final since 2013. Not sure about either of their talent coming up, but still. Girls soccer is where Ontario will be dominant. And Boys Basketball. You must be forgetting that Clear Fork has girls soccer. I'm not forgetting. Clear Fork isn't being mentioned. But you are big on semantics, so you are right. Ontario will have to battle the Colts for the MOAC Girls Soccer crown. Back to football I presume. |
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Post by usa70pp on Jul 22, 2017 17:15:33 GMT -5
^^^
You were already talking about what most of the world refer to as football.(soccer)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 17:45:22 GMT -5
Ontario could do very well in a could sports of the MOAC, otherwise they would not be joining, but dominate may be a bit strong.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 22, 2017 23:24:26 GMT -5
Ontario could do very well in a could sports of the MOAC, otherwise they would not be joining, but dominated may be a bit strong. Yet another misinformed put down of little Ontario. They were not supposed to "do very well" in the NOL and joined anyway. In their 4 years in the big bad NOL only Bellevue and Norwalk won more league titles. Do a little research on the recent girls soccer DII District Championships. |
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Post by galion on Jul 23, 2017 3:43:09 GMT -5
I thought we were discussing boys bball. Trust me, I'd have much preferred to be in the NOL for girls bball the last 2 years. Nobody in the NOL, not even Shelby, would have won the MOAC. I know this is a football thread buy your way off base. Unless your counting the schools like Cardington and nothmor from the other division NU and RV are the only two teams worth salt in the moac girls basketball. Shelby and Ontario will be tops in the new moac for some time based not the talent of teams in that league coming up. But if someone wants to debate that On the girls thread....Lol 😎😎 Well I can only base my opinion on having watched Ontario, Shelby, and the MOAC conference the last 2 seasons in addition to the post season results. I don't know what the hell you're basing yours on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 8:00:59 GMT -5
When you can't win 6 games in a season it really doesn't matter what league you are in. Based on last years gbball results in the MOAC, 2 of the top 4 teams will be gone and be replaced by 2 teams with very little success in recent years.
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Post by galion on Jul 23, 2017 9:48:52 GMT -5
Scooter just come out and say it it. Since Galion would have finished last in either league you feel like that should discredit my opinion. JA had some very good programs in both girls and boys(athletes as well) but Shelby does too. Overall, losing Fairbanks, JA, and NU but picking up CF, Shelby, and Ontario makes this conference stronger not weaker in my opinion. It most certainly isn't a step backwards.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 10:02:31 GMT -5
Overall, losing Fairbanks, JA, and NU but picking up CF, Shelby, and Ontario makes this conference stronger not weaker in my opinion. It most certainly isn't a step backwards. What i'm saying is when a team lacks success and getting beat consistently it really doesn't matter who they are playing. And I agree in part as that is what I, and maybe sweathog, was saying. As you put Shelby entering makes it stronger. I made a post about a girls sport that is now being stretched conference wide. |
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Post by bigox on Jul 23, 2017 15:19:53 GMT -5
Well I can only base my opinion on having watched Ontario, Shelby, and the MOAC conference the last 2 seasons in addition to the post season results. I don't know what the hell you're basing yours on.[/quote]
I am basing it on 8 yrs of experience in coaching, refereeing,and running a youth girls basketball league that has had most all the teams from both leagues in it at one point. And also being involed with the Marion county youth girls league. Connections with H.S. and middle school programs goes a long way in judging talent levels. I've seen what's coming up at 90% of the schools in both leagues. These next few years are going to be great for both Shelby and Ontario girls basketball. River valley will be strong as well. Unfortunately galion, your lady tigers need a lot of help and hopefully they hit the gym and get better. Or maybe catch a break and move in talent.Lol. Just an unbiased perspective.😎😎 I think overall this new alignment moac will be good for all involved. I know girls from 9th grade down that have played Shelby will tell you that they will be tough in the next 4-5 years.
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Post by galion on Jul 23, 2017 18:30:24 GMT -5
Shelby is tough in girls bball most every year. I think though we can agree that there is a difference between being tough and being a final 4 candidate.
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Post by galion on Jul 23, 2017 18:34:14 GMT -5
Overall, losing Fairbanks, JA, and NU but picking up CF, Shelby, and Ontario makes this conference stronger not weaker in my opinion. It most certainly isn't a step backwards. What i'm saying is when a team lacks success and getting beat consistently it really doesn't matter who they are playing. And I agree in part as that is what I, and maybe sweathog, was saying. As you put Shelby entering makes it stronger. I made a post about a girls sport that is now being stretched conference wide. So it wasn't stretched conference wide before? What school didn't field a girls bball team? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 6:23:05 GMT -5
I guess I just didn't realize that Shelby was a basketball powerhouse. I don't think anyone used that word, but changing schedules from the NOL to the MOAC in girls basketball may be a reduction in competition. sweathog mentioned Shelby girls basketball and I made a reference to that after your post. Now this has been stretched to all sports. The changes being made for all schools with the adding and subtracting of teams in leagues will make some people happy but not everyone. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jul 24, 2017 13:47:13 GMT -5
The changes being made for all schools will make some people happy but not everyone. One of the more ridiculous statements made in the history of NCOAST. What "changes" are being made for all schools?? What "people" will be made happy??? What "people" won't be made happy?  |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jul 24, 2017 18:10:04 GMT -5
From the Shelby City School District website is the following from the agenda for their meeting starting about now:
Under New Business Section 9 Exhibit 13:
The Shelby City School District accepts an invitation and passes a resolution to join the Mid Ohio Athletic Conference (MOAC) at the earliest, reasonable date effective upon the withdraw from the Sandusky Bay Conference (SBC) and with the alignment of athletic schedules within the MOAC.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 24, 2017 20:40:56 GMT -5
It's in the Shelby Globe tonight. Timeline is next year or the year after depending on what they can work out.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Jul 25, 2017 22:52:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 7:30:50 GMT -5
Word is spreading.
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Post by Eagles nest on Aug 2, 2017 16:17:20 GMT -5
Just getting back on, I started reading about girls sports above. I can see Harding girls being very good in basketball in 2 to 3 years. The girls coming in as freshman this year went 33-1 as middle schoolers. Future looks bright on that end. But back to fall sports. I was checking out the local High School teams in Marion seeing how they stack up to Harding this year. Both RV and Pleasant will give Harding a run. I could see HHS going 0-2 vs the other Marion Schools. While I was at Pleasant I noticed a familiar face on the sideline. Everyone remembers the kid with the ankle monitor at HHS last year, well he is now a Pleasant Spartan but will have to sit 5 games. He ran for 1000 yards in 7 games last year. I found out the HHS Coach kicked him off the team for the year for conduct detrimental to the team on the Friday before two a days started. With all the crap HHS took for allowing the kid to play last year from the Pleasant coaches and admins, can you say they are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites?
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Post by usa70pp on Aug 2, 2017 19:05:24 GMT -5
Hypocrites? Yes, but they are going to make the kid wear that ankle monitor during the games he plays. Then, with the help of a shock device, they expect to be able to get him to run for 2000+ yards in those last five games. They will then just show up for playoff games and will waltz through to the D5 state championship because their foes will forfeit. At least that is the story I've heard.
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Post by galion on Aug 2, 2017 19:49:46 GMT -5
I don't recall Pleasant complaining, mainly just NU.
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Post by moacmama on Aug 3, 2017 7:03:13 GMT -5
Upset not so much about the young man, but the fact he was allowed to play while wearing it, which was an admin/coaching decision. Not good for the safety of others, no matter how much athletic tape you use to try to hide it. Good luck to him at Pleasant. We play PHS week 6 at home.
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