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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 12, 2023 9:52:55 GMT -5
Which, if true, means coaching is crucial. And I’ve made that argument for years. With rare exceptions most schools have about the same kids walking the halls. It’s the law of averages. It’s about training and conditioning them, motivating them, and coaching them on fundamentals and the system.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 9, 2023 15:33:39 GMT -5
I think a few people on here are giving Shelby a bit of a hard time. Even some Shelby posters. Do they need some work in the tranches and could they use a dose of mean? Sure. Shelby has lost one game and gave a traditionally tough football team everything they wanted on their home field in the only loss.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 1, 2023 11:20:19 GMT -5
And Shelby can score in a hurry. Second and long, third and long are not good positions for most high school teams to be in. They are not a huge problem for a team that gets 10+ yard plays regularly.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 1, 2023 7:03:33 GMT -5
Brennan threw for 155, ran for just under 100 with two running TD’s, no passing touchdowns, no INT’s in a win over UConn. Not a bad start, but not a pro stat line. He probably won’t have as many opportunities to score. Virginia’s defense was so bad their games were shoot outs. Hopefully he’ll be able to bounce back from last years stat fall off. It would be fun to see him get drafted.
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Post by fanofthegame on Sept 1, 2023 5:46:38 GMT -5
I have seen Shelby play. I do think they can win. They need to play mean and not turn the ball over.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 31, 2023 19:35:52 GMT -5
My point is it’s never been the game on Shelby’s schedule that means a conference championship during these kids’ memories. It’s been an out of conference game that if they lose doesn’t ruin their chances of a conference championship or knock them out of the playoffs. The last time it did was the dark years that pain me to even mention. If they remember those times they remember Shelby not having a chance. Shelby’s head coach can’t really appreciate the rivalry, but Nasonti sure does and I’m sure gets them ready like it’s the old rivalry. I just don’t get the feel the current Whippets have the necessary perspective.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 31, 2023 6:59:16 GMT -5
The current Shelby players don’t remember what it was like playing Bellevue in the NOL. It’s not a finesse game. It’s a smash mouth slug fest. Until they realize that they are going to struggle against Bellevue because the only team they play that has that mentality is Clear Fork. They have the talent to win. Are they willing to fight it out in the trenches? And I don’t mean dirty football. I’ve seen Shelby do some dumb things getting chippy. I just mean clean hard football. If they are willing to do that they can win easily.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 25, 2023 20:49:19 GMT -5
50-19 final.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 25, 2023 20:13:48 GMT -5
36-13 after three.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 25, 2023 19:16:57 GMT -5
22-6 halftime.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 25, 2023 18:34:00 GMT -5
19-0 Shelby after one. One PAT, one failed conversion, one missed PAT. Most yards on the pass.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 6, 2023 14:58:20 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 6, 2023 14:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 6, 2023 14:53:21 GMT -5
Legendary Shelby coach Bill Varble passed away at 92. I thought I’d post this here since his career was in the old NOL.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 6, 2023 14:51:51 GMT -5
It may not mean as much on the MOAC thread as he coached in the NOL era, but coach Bill Varble passed away. I didn’t know him as a coach, but got to know him in his retirement. He is a Shelby legend.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 22, 2023 8:58:46 GMT -5
Nice and pleasant. Words that are synonymous with football.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 21, 2023 21:20:31 GMT -5
Who does that? People who know their chances of getting acquitted in a system that isn’t fair and impartial to some people. People who realize a plea bargain for a shorter term is better than the alternative. It happens a lot. One clearly unreliable criminal ruined the lives of over 20 people. Maybe all 20 of those people weren’t law abiding citizens, but what kind of system convicts multiple people on the word of one guy? The entire case fell apart due to an informants lies, but there was a reason they were all there, a reason their names were given and a reason connections were made. Plea bargains normally are a way for guilty people to reduce their sentence from what I've seen. If you think that being self employed, being hired by a high school as a head coach without any experience and rubbing elbows with a local doctor is a ruined life, you may want to look around a little more. Plea bargains are also a way for someone with limited resources and/or a public decedent to take the lesser of two evils regardless of innocence or guilt. I’ll bet some of those people involved weren’t good people, but nobody should have to make that decision. I also bet if you follow up on all involved Mr Moton is the exception as far as the outcome which is, again, a testament to him as an individual.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 21, 2023 19:01:54 GMT -5
It’s Googleable. Judicially exonerated due to wrongful conviction based on false testimony. One of 17 people who had their convictions overturned because a DEA informant admitted to giving false information. Served 1.6 years of a 3 year sentence for something he didn’t do. I only have more respect for him and the fact he’s not a bitter, angry man. That’s assuming it’s the same person. It lists Richland County and the dates fit. It is googleable. The article I read said 2.5 years of a 3 year term and he plead guilty. Who does that? The article read the informant lied about some of the details so the entire case on all of them fell thru. Interesting line was that Moton worked for American Express before the arrest and would like to return but feared his time in jail would tarnish his resume. Regardless, it's sad in many ways. Who does that? People who know their chances of getting acquitted in a system that isn’t fair and impartial to some people. People who realize a plea bargain for a shorter term is better than the alternative. It happens a lot. One clearly unreliable criminal ruined the lives of over 20 people. Maybe all 20 of those people weren’t law abiding citizens, but what kind of system convicts multiple people on the word of one guy?
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 21, 2023 14:09:21 GMT -5
It’s Googleable. Judicially exonerated due to wrongful conviction based on false testimony. One of 17 people who had their convictions overturned because a DEA informant admitted to giving false information. Served 1.6 years of a 3 year sentence for something he didn’t do. I only have more respect for him and the fact he’s not a bitter, angry man. That’s assuming it’s the same person. It lists Richland County and the dates fit.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 21, 2023 11:40:43 GMT -5
Great guy, really good basketball player, and I’ve played ball with him. He knows the game. If they run him off the problem will lie squarely on Ontario. Has he told you about his time in prison? Asking for a friend. No, and that would come as a shock to me. If true he seems like a guy who got his act together.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 20, 2023 12:15:22 GMT -5
Again, is he as bad as some say? Probably not. Are more people complaining because he’s coaching 2023 kids/parents the same way he coached kids ten or fifteen years ago? Likely.
My high school coach did some things that would get him fired today immediately. No hearing. No arbitration. Using a kids face mask to help him onto his belly so he can do some pushups as a reminder not to talk during the team huddle after practice was a little much. I ran grass drills after every practice until school started for missing one two-a-day to show my market steer at the fair. He shouldn’t have done those things. It didn’t cause anyone any permanent harm, though. We were all a little tougher for it and have some great stories to tell as adults. And we won a lot of games including a lot of playoff games when making the playoffs wasn’t a participation ribbon.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 15, 2023 9:48:28 GMT -5
Finding five kids willing to work hard for little to no recognition is hard at every school. It’s about a coach motivating and teaching them how. I do not see that as a problem for that coach.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 14, 2023 11:57:06 GMT -5
The truth is probably somewhere in between. He sounds old school and do they make some bad decisions? Yep. Do they get a lot out of the kids and make them tough when the kids buy in? Yep. Do they win? Yep. Do they run some kids off and **** off some parents? Yep. It will be fun to see how much of Clear Fork’s success it the coach and how much is tradition. The next couple of years will clear that up.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 5, 2023 7:01:32 GMT -5
There was a rumor that Ontario’s new coach is recruiting. If I were the OHSAA and I only had so many resources I’d investigate a school with two move ins before I went after a rumor. I’m not saying Lex’s coach recruited anyone. My bet is the kids just want to win and they see what’s going on there. It’s just funny that a rumor got discussion in one thread and nothing in a thread announcing two actual move ins.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 3, 2023 18:54:57 GMT -5
What I’m saying is someone saying they know a kid who got recruited is pretty unreliable as a source. Did Moton jokingly say, “You could always come play for Ontario.”? Or did he sit down with the family and say I got a guy who will provide an apartment dirt cheap and a business owner who’ll give you a job. Those are two very different scenarios. Also I’m saying maybe we should let him coach an open gym before we start stirring up controversy. What I'm saying, extremely reliable. Also being told that the leading scorer that returns for Ontario has decided not to play basketball next year. Could change but that is the feeling right now. So are you saying someone who you trust enough to stake your reputation on was offered an incentive to come play basketball at Ontario? If that is true either you are that family has an obligation to report it to the OHSAA.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 3, 2023 13:45:32 GMT -5
Former Mansfield player so no love for Ontario. Former so not in the age range to have first hand knowledge. Too old to be recruited himself. Maybe we should let the guy have an open gym before we start rumors. Moton is a former Mansfield player, so are you saying he has no love for Ontario. Is it first hand when it comes from the kid' parent? Are you talking like ever in his life. Is that a comment about him never coaching before and having held an open gym. What I’m saying is someone saying they know a kid who got recruited is pretty unreliable as a source. Did Moton jokingly say, “You could always come play for Ontario.”? Or did he sit down with the family and say I got a guy who will provide an apartment dirt cheap and a business owner who’ll give you a job. Those are two very different scenarios. Also I’m saying maybe we should let him coach an open gym before we start stirring up controversy.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 2, 2023 20:02:58 GMT -5
Former Mansfield player so no love for Ontario.
Former so not in the age range to have first hand knowledge. Too old to be recruited himself.
Maybe we should let the guy have an open gym before we start rumors.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jun 1, 2023 20:13:06 GMT -5
Great guy, really good basketball player, and I’ve played ball with him. He knows the game. If they run him off the problem will lie squarely on Ontario.
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Post by fanofthegame on May 24, 2023 11:50:47 GMT -5
It’s not a bad article. I don’t agree with everything. I don’t think you can take the school board out entirely. I’ve seen AD’s who have too close a personal relationship with a coach and overlook things. School board members should recuse themselves from votes involving personnel if their children are involved. They should be at sporting events, arts events, etc but theoretically voting should fix that. If you don’t see a board member at an occasional event you shouldn’t vote for them, but we all know how involved the average voter is in actually analyzing their options. Most elections are popularity competitions or partisan loyalty.
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Post by fanofthegame on May 13, 2023 10:53:45 GMT -5
That’s what I heard. He’s a guy who got a beloved teacher and coach fired at Shelby on his way out of the door. What’s the common thread? If you cannot keep your Shelbillys happy, at least keep them from getting out. I’m going to guess most people in Shelby are happy to be rid of them. Admin for sure.
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