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Post by GHS 1999 on Mar 4, 2018 13:33:57 GMT -5
Not trying to say they would be interested, but Willard would have more history with the MOAC schools than the SBC Bay Division. Willard has lots of history with Shelby, plus Galion, and even Ontario was members in the NOL plus they played non conference in football. I would guess Marion would be no farther from Willard than Vermilion or Huron or Oak Harbor or Port Clinton.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 15:24:41 GMT -5
Not trying to say they would be interested, but Willard would have more history with the MOAC schools than the SBC Bay Division. Willard has lots of history with Shelby, plus Galion, and even Ontario was members in the NOL plus they played non conference in football. I would guess Marion would be no farther from Willard than Vermilion or Huron or Oak Harbor or Port Clinton. The talk of history and tradition from NOL in this decision looks to mean very little since Willard is the main reason the NOL is no longer active. They wanted out so it's fair to say the history means little. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 4, 2018 15:37:05 GMT -5
Willard views themselves as more closely related to Sandusky than Mansfield or Marion. Additionally, they have a lot of history with the Bay schools. Maybe not league alliance but been playing most of them for some time. All reasons they'll be staying in the SBC.
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Post by galion on Mar 4, 2018 15:46:50 GMT -5
BV my cell phone auto corrected.
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Post by usa70pp on Mar 4, 2018 15:57:22 GMT -5
Highland's growth in numbers is due to surrounding school not being able to run satisfactory special education programs and many of those kids having to transfer to Highland. Wasn't this a complaint a few years back from Highland that they should not be in a higher OHSAA division because of all the special education kids being counted against their student number total? Some how my aging memory thinks it was 10 or so years ago. |
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Post by galion on Mar 4, 2018 16:01:50 GMT -5
You'd know better than me, I'd never even been to Highland 10 years ago. But to grow like they have over the last 10 years they must have taken in every special needs kid in a 3 county radius.
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Post by GHS 1999 on Mar 4, 2018 18:04:33 GMT -5
Not trying to say they would be interested, but Willard would have more history with the MOAC schools than the SBC Bay Division. Willard has lots of history with Shelby, plus Galion, and even Ontario was members in the NOL plus they played non conference in football. I would guess Marion would be no farther from Willard than Vermilion or Huron or Oak Harbor or Port Clinton. The talk of history and tradition from NOL in this decision looks to mean very little since Willard is the main reason the NOL is no longer active. They wanted out so it's fair to say the history means little. I agree was just providing logic they might be thinking if they were interested. |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Mar 4, 2018 18:06:24 GMT -5
Willard views themselves as more closely related to Sandusky than Mansfield or Marion. Additionally, they have a lot of history with the Bay schools. Maybe not league alliance but been playing most of them for some time. All reasons they'll be staying in the SBC. Makes sense. They did pick going North over going South a few years ago when they decided th join the SBC in the first place. However they probably would’ve joined the N10 if they would’ve had them. |
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Post by moacmama on Mar 4, 2018 18:43:03 GMT -5
People are moving to Highland because the land is cheap and taxes are lower, and you can jump on 71 and get to Delaware or Columbus easily.
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Post by mrsteel on Mar 4, 2018 18:53:26 GMT -5
People are moving to Highland because the land is cheap and taxes are lower, and you can jump on 71 and get to Delaware or Columbus easily. Truth |
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Post by galion on Mar 4, 2018 19:31:06 GMT -5
Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 22:01:51 GMT -5
So we rule Willard and Highland out and the MOAC is still at 7 come 2019.
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Post by wallacefan on Mar 4, 2018 22:24:54 GMT -5
So we rule Willard and Highland out and the MOAC is still at 7 come 2019. Who is “we”? You can’t rule anyone out, LOL The post about Willard was ridiculous anyway. Just like a good chunk of the posts on here. The MOAC and Willard haven’t been in contact for 2 years. As for Highland, who knows. Conflicting information out there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 23:04:38 GMT -5
Hey Wally it’s a discussion and WE were talking about Willard. If you want News turn to FOX. On here we talk about sports and sometimes it can get ridiculous and it’s enjoyable.
As for Highland I spoke with the former CF guy who is there and they have no interest at this time to consider a change.
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Post by galion on Mar 5, 2018 6:05:12 GMT -5
That's not exactly something that you are going to broadcast until you have your i's dotted and your t's crossed.
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Post by galion on Mar 5, 2018 6:08:27 GMT -5
So we rule Willard and Highland out and the MOAC is still at 7 come 2019. Who is “we”? You can’t rule anyone out, LOL The post about Willard was ridiculous anyway. Just like a good chunk of the posts on here. The MOAC and Willard haven’t been in contact for 2 years. As for Highland, who knows. Conflicting information out there. 2 years ago Shelby and Ontario weren't part of the MOAC. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 9:00:13 GMT -5
We are not asking anyone to broadcast anything. It was just fans talking about possible outcomes. Unless the ADs are on this site to discuss their schools options, we are all just chatting.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 5, 2018 22:54:13 GMT -5
Not trying to say they would be interested, but Willard would have more history with the MOAC schools than the SBC Bay Division. Willard has lots of history with Shelby, plus Galion, and even Ontario was members in the NOL plus they played non conference in football. I would guess Marion would be no farther from Willard than Vermilion or Huron or Oak Harbor or Port Clinton. The talk of history and tradition from NOL in this decision looks to mean very little since Willard is the main reason the NOL is no longer active. They wanted out so it's fair to say the history means little. Willard would prefer not to play in the Bay Division with former SBC schools they have "history" with. They would much rather play in the River Division with the itsy bitsy schools they have no history with. |
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Post by nattydaddy on Mar 6, 2018 21:07:57 GMT -5
Just wait until Buckeye Valley gets a whif of the crowds the MSL schools bring...or don’t. They can be pretty putrid. So what exactly qualifies your opinion on this one? I’m an alum of the MSL myself. |
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Post by pirate80 on Mar 7, 2018 8:09:32 GMT -5
Just wait until Buckeye Valley gets a whif of the crowds the MSL schools bring...or don’t. They can be pretty putrid. So what exactly qualifies your opinion on this one? I’m an alum of the MSL myself. Well, I have no dog in this fight, but I'm basketball 2-20 Cardington had more fans AT #3 seed Berne Union than Berne Union did.... I know nothing about the Mid State but was very surprised by that. You're highly seeded and hosting a tourney game and a team with a poor record from 90 minutes away on a Tuesday night traveled better than the home team.... 😬 |
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Post by ohioraised on Mar 8, 2018 8:23:14 GMT -5
Announced that BV is leaving for the 19-20 season is the moac looking for a big school or small school or the closest drive for every one? Is the tournament district a factor? I only ask since that was part of Buckeye's reason for leaving.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 12:08:45 GMT -5
So what exactly qualifies your opinion on this one? I’m an alum of the MSL myself. Well, I have no dog in this fight, but I'm basketball 2-20 Cardington had more fans AT #3 seed Berne Union than Berne Union did.... I know nothing about the Mid State but was very surprised by that. You're highly seeded and hosting a tourney game and a team with a poor record from 90 minutes away on a Tuesday night traveled better than the home team.... 😬 Maybe there was a swim meet same day.  |
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Post by nattydaddy on Mar 8, 2018 12:40:08 GMT -5
So what exactly qualifies your opinion on this one? I’m an alum of the MSL myself. Well, I have no dog in this fight, but I'm basketball 2-20 Cardington had more fans AT #3 seed Berne Union than Berne Union did.... I know nothing about the Mid State but was very surprised by that. You're highly seeded and hosting a tourney game and a team with a poor record from 90 minutes away on a Tuesday night traveled better than the home team.... 😬 Not to disrespect your contribution, but Berne Union (and for that matter, none of the schools in that division except Harvest Prep for football) will never play Buckeye Valley in the MSL set-up. Think back to the “old” MOAC. If a school such as Ridgedale brought a comparatively meager crowd, does that mean Buckeye Valley would bring a bad crowd? For what it’s worth, BU shouldn’t have been the #3 seed. Not at all trying to take away from the win that I’m sure will be remembered years from now in the Cardington community, and rightfully so; but, BU lost eight or nine of their last 11 games this season. I think most fans that supposedly stayed home were just holding out for the sectional final game that was going to be played Friday night against a school they’re very familiar with (Fairfield Christian.) If I were a BU fan in that situation, I would’ve stayed home too that and kept the $6 for admission in my wallet. Playing a 20-loss team, I would’ve taken the game for granted. If it was a team that I thought my boys could’ve lost to, I’d have shown up. |
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Post by usa70pp on Mar 8, 2018 15:33:53 GMT -5
Woulda, coulda shoulda.
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Post by Eagles nest on Mar 13, 2018 16:11:11 GMT -5
If Cardington's top player didn't get hurt they had a chance. Kid scored 19 in 3 quarters before rolling his ankle. But agree BU was no 3 seed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 13:33:14 GMT -5
Any more talk of the BV move with the official announcement and the search for a replacement? I don't see the KMAC members being on option. Would Elgin return?
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 14, 2018 15:20:21 GMT -5
Sure sounds like Highland is the only target and there appears to be more interest than people think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 21:43:01 GMT -5
What has changed their minds. Not long ago they wanted no part of Clear Fork and now they want them Harding, Ontario and Shelby?
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Post by galion on Mar 15, 2018 0:10:51 GMT -5
Because they a no longer a tiny rural district. If you look at the big picture there is no way that they can stay in the KMAC long term. They will eventually get forced out one way or another. If you look at the improvements and expenditures that they have made on their facilities recently they clearly no longer consider themselves to be a tiny rural district either. Right now hey have an opportunity to move into a local conference with like sized schools. They also have an administrator from Ontario who can also see the similarities between Highland's situation now and Ontario's situation in the NCC. We all know how the latter turned out. If they wait until they have to move who knows what if any options will be available.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 5:08:26 GMT -5
Because they a no longer a tiny rural district. If you look at the big picture there is no way that they can stay in the KMAC long term. They will eventually get forced out one way or another. If you look at the improvements and expenditures that they have made on their facilities recently they clearly no longer consider themselves to be a tiny rural district either. Right now hey have an opportunity to move into a local conference with like sized schools. They also have an administrator from Ontario who can also see the similarities between Highland's situation now and Ontario's situation in the NCC. We all know how the latter turned out. If they wait until they have to move who knows what if any options will be available. There are a few schools in our local area that see themselves as "tiny" schools and that is not the case. Highland has been D4 in football for many years and that is not "tiny" but they still want to be connected to the smaller schools either because of location or competition. As you mentioned, Ontario is similar and they never made a move until their hand was forced. I can see Highland doing the same. |
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