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Post by moacmama on Dec 30, 2017 16:41:07 GMT -5
Started a new thread so not to clog up the MOAC 2018 football thread and I am posting this article because it mentions Marion Harding. MrMoacMama (aka MoacPapa) has a lot of connections to Marysville and Delaware and this is actively being talked about again in those circles, along with BV. Take it however you want. The intent is not to spread unsubstantiated rumors. You can see it in print. Even though it is a commentary, focused on OCC, you can start to put together the ripple effect on it all. Have a nice day. www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20171229/commentary-possible-shakeup-looming-for-occ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:13:39 GMT -5
mama, there is a lot of behind the scenes talk going on to the north of Columbus. Regardless if people want to accept it or not, it does look like there could be some changes to leagues by the next 5 years. Specifically the C-bus OCC, the Richland County OCC and the MOAC to mention a few.
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 10, 2018 8:23:55 GMT -5
This may be common knowledge but it sounds like Buckeye Valley is the next to go. The MOAC has hopes on Highland as a replacement. They would appear to be a nice fit. From what I gather, they are not in the right place now despite their long-time allegiances to KMAC schools.
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Post by galion on Feb 10, 2018 8:36:28 GMT -5
Seems to me they had the opportunity to stay in the MOAC when the KMAC split off and chose to go. What's changed in the last year? Honestly I'd hate to see BV leave. However, with the additions of Ont, CF, and now Shelby I can understand why they would look to a more localized conference. I just don't see any really competitive options for them given how much smaller they are than most of the schools to their south.
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Post by babymaker on Feb 10, 2018 8:56:25 GMT -5
That is completely laughable. Highland wants zero part of anything but the KMAC. They were a driving force in creating it. They could have stopped the implosion but they wanted to play smaller schools that geographically were better fit. That has not changed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 13:01:29 GMT -5
Highland is not leaving the KMAC and would vote down any school their size if an opening came in their league.
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Post by moacmama on Feb 11, 2018 20:47:49 GMT -5
Where is BV headed? I know there was talk of MSL but I thought BV didn't want to deal with driving through Columbus on weeknights and was trying to avoid going south. Also Highland was the one who orchestrated the expansion of the MOAC and eventually the KMAC, so I would not expect the MOAC to welcome them back with open arms, except now there are new faces who would be willing to take them (Galion - yes you still are a newbie, Ontario, Clear Fork, Harding...and now Shelby) and some of the originals are gone (NU, Elgin, Ridgedale).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 22:31:01 GMT -5
Could you imagine a league with schools like BV, Marion Harding, River Valley, Mt Vernon, Big Walnut, Marysville, Westerville North and South |
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Post by wallacefan on Feb 14, 2018 22:44:57 GMT -5
Could you imagine a league with schools like BV, Marion Harding, River Valley, Mt Vernon, Big Walnut, Marysville, Westerville North and South Imagine whatever you want. That ain't happening. |
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Post by wallacefan on Feb 14, 2018 22:46:17 GMT -5
Where is BV headed? I know there was talk of MSL but I thought BV didn't want to deal with driving through Columbus on weeknights and was trying to avoid going south. Also Highland was the one who orchestrated the expansion of the MOAC and eventually the KMAC, so I would not expect the MOAC to welcome them back with open arms, except now there are new faces who would be willing to take them (Galion - yes you still are a newbie, Ontario, Clear Fork, Harding...and now Shelby) and some of the originals are gone (NU, Elgin, Ridgedale). BV is heading to the Mid State League. Wednesday night at their Board Meeting. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 23:07:35 GMT -5
Could you imagine a league with schools like BV, Marion Harding, River Valley, Mt Vernon, Big Walnut, Marysville, Westerville North and South Imagine whatever you want. That ain't happening. Never claimed it was but with a few schools wanting back in leagues that are Central District connected, it would solve that. |
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Post by moacmama on Feb 14, 2018 23:57:58 GMT -5
Could you imagine a league with schools like BV, Marion Harding, River Valley, Mt Vernon, Big Walnut, Marysville, Westerville North and South A few years ago, there was talk of Mville, big walnut, Hayes, Harding, BV on one side and NU, London, west Jeff, pleasant, RV on the other side. Just talk. That's all. Its no secret that Mville wants out of the OCC. can't compete with huge suburban schools. |
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Post by moacmama on Feb 14, 2018 23:58:58 GMT -5
Where is BV headed? I know there was talk of MSL but I thought BV didn't want to deal with driving through Columbus on weeknights and was trying to avoid going south. Also Highland was the one who orchestrated the expansion of the MOAC and eventually the KMAC, so I would not expect the MOAC to welcome them back with open arms, except now there are new faces who would be willing to take them (Galion - yes you still are a newbie, Ontario, Clear Fork, Harding...and now Shelby) and some of the originals are gone (NU, Elgin, Ridgedale). BV is heading to the Mid State League. Monday night at their Board Meeting. Thanks for info. I have a niece and nephew at BV, my brother in law mentioned MSL. |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Feb 15, 2018 19:15:45 GMT -5
Where is BV headed? I know there was talk of MSL but I thought BV didn't want to deal with driving through Columbus on weeknights and was trying to avoid going south. Also Highland was the one who orchestrated the expansion of the MOAC and eventually the KMAC, so I would not expect the MOAC to welcome them back with open arms, except now there are new faces who would be willing to take them (Galion - yes you still are a newbie, Ontario, Clear Fork, Harding...and now Shelby) and some of the originals are gone (NU, Elgin, Ridgedale). BV is heading to the Mid State League. Wednesday night at their Board Meeting. So any ideas who the MOAC might try to pursue, wallacefan? |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 16, 2018 16:21:51 GMT -5
That is completely laughable. Highland wants zero part of anything but the KMAC. They were a driving force in creating it. They could have stopped the implosion but they wanted to play smaller schools that geographically were better fit. That has not changed. Highland has always wanted to be the BIG FISH in the little pond. They will be there as long as the little fish don't mind being eaten by THE big fish. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 16, 2018 16:24:05 GMT -5
Could you imagine a league with schools like BV, Marion Harding, River Valley, Mt Vernon, Big Walnut, Marysville, Westerville North and South River Valley in that league is laughable |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 16, 2018 16:27:24 GMT -5
BV is heading to the Mid State League. Wednesday night at their Board Meeting. So any ideas who the MOAC might try to pursue, wallacefan? Kenton to the West, Upper to the North, Lexington to the East, Highland. None are interested. A 7 school league is workable. |
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Post by ohioraised on Feb 17, 2018 12:25:00 GMT -5
So any ideas who the MOAC might try to pursue, wallacefan? Kenton to the West, Upper to the North, Lexington to the East, Highland. None are interested. A 7 school league is workable. 7 can be workable but nobody wants to. Clear Fork, Ontario and Shelby did not make this move to be a league of 7. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 18, 2018 0:10:35 GMT -5
How do you know " nobody wants to"  You've talked to all the coaches and every AD at all schools? After speaking with Ontario's AD yesterday I know for a FACT they have no problem with a 7 school league. LIAR! Shelby and Ontario did it in the NOL. Clear Fork would MUCH rather be 7, than be by far the smallest school in the OCC with 5 DI schools AND Senior's first year out of DI or Class A in their history. . With BV turning tail it eliminates the furthest trip for Shelby, Ontario and Clear Fork. Which was better than driving to Sandusky and Perkins up by Lake Erie. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 9:14:49 GMT -5
Kenton to the West, Upper to the North, Lexington to the East, Highland. None are interested. A 7 school league is workable. 7 can be workable but nobody wants to. Clear Fork, Ontario and Shelby did not make this move to be a league of 7. The only problem this creates is adding an additional non-conference game. If this actually does happen they my guess is they will reach out to some schools to get back to 8 very quickly. If that does not happen, only then will they try making 7 schools work. The MOAC may have a problem finding an 8th school they can all agree on. Kenton, Highland and Upper Sandusky look to be very happy in their places and many would be shocked if they were to move. Kenton would create over an hour drive for some schools and that would be frowned upon. Lexington would not be approved unanimously as a couple schools are afraid to have them in a league with them. If BV leaves I would initiate the 7 team plan right away. |
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Post by Eagles nest on Feb 18, 2018 16:32:17 GMT -5
Don't be surprised if BV leaves, that JA will be the first school knocking on the door to come back.
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Post by babymaker on Feb 19, 2018 10:48:43 GMT -5
This is funny. JA wants to drive to CF, Ont, Shelby? Wow don't see it.
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Post by galion on Feb 19, 2018 19:25:21 GMT -5
How miserable would they need to be in their new conference to even consider that? It's moot anyway, I can't see any way the northern schools on this league would take them back. I can count on one hand the number of events we had here with them that actually started on time and 2 of those were varsity football games. They even arrived late to the conference track meet.
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Post by ohioraised on Feb 20, 2018 7:41:45 GMT -5
How do you know " nobody wants to" You've talked to all the coaches and every AD at all schools? After speaking with Ontario's AD yesterday I know for a FACT they have no problem with a 7 school league. LIAR! Shelby and Ontario did it in the NOL. Clear Fork would MUCH rather be 7, than be by far the smallest school in the OCC with 5 DI schools AND Senior's first year out of DI or Class A in their history. . With BV turning tail it eliminates the furthest trip for Shelby, Ontario and Clear Fork. Which was better than driving to Sandusky and Perkins up by Lake Erie. Why must you be this way? There is a difference between accepting something and wanting something. Ask your AD if he wants a 7 school league over an 8 school league. Don't ask him if he is okay with settling for 7. We already knew Ontario would settle when they went to the NOL. Your fact won't be for long since Ontario is getting a new AD. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 7:47:29 GMT -5
How do you know " nobody wants to" You've talked to all the coaches and every AD at all schools? After speaking with Ontario's AD yesterday I know for a FACT they have no problem with a 7 school league. LIAR! Shelby and Ontario did it in the NOL. Clear Fork would MUCH rather be 7, than be by far the smallest school in the OCC with 5 DI schools AND Senior's first year out of DI or Class A in their history. . With BV turning tail it eliminates the furthest trip for Shelby, Ontario and Clear Fork. Which was better than driving to Sandusky and Perkins up by Lake Erie. Why must you be this way? Your fact won't be for long since Ontario is getting a new AD. Because he’s a piece of 💩 |
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Post by ohioraised on Feb 20, 2018 7:55:12 GMT -5
Why must you be this way? Your fact won't be for long since Ontario is getting a new AD. Because he’s a piece of 💩 I am beginning to see that. A very angry child with a thesaurus by his computer. |
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Post by ohioraised on Feb 20, 2018 7:59:08 GMT -5
7 can be workable but nobody wants to. Clear Fork, Ontario and Shelby did not make this move to be a league of 7. The only problem this creates is adding an additional non-conference game. If this actually does happen they my guess is they will reach out to some schools to get back to 8 very quickly. If that does not happen, only then will they try making 7 schools work. The MOAC may have a problem finding an 8th school they can all agree on. Kenton, Highland and Upper Sandusky look to be very happy in their places and many would be shocked if they were to move. Kenton would create over an hour drive for some schools and that would be frowned upon. Lexington would not be approved unanimously as a couple schools are afraid to have them in a league with them. If BV leaves I would initiate the 7 team plan right away. I would hope for Lex to get the spot over the others. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 8:16:17 GMT -5
Because he’s a piece of 💩 I am beginning to see that. A very angry child with a thesaurus by his computer. He claims to be a 50+ year old man lol |
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Post by shelbyrr11 on Feb 20, 2018 9:37:55 GMT -5
I am beginning to see that. A very angry child with a thesaurus by his computer. He claims to be a 50+ year old man lol His insights wouldn't be half bad but it is often clouded by what must be the most persistently angry approach to a message board that I've ever seen. Not everyone is out to spread misinformation and lies believe it or not. There isn't a lot to gain from this website besides personal enjoyment. This conference alignment stuff is nonsense. The movement is downright foolish at times. For the MOAC? Poaching Upper Sandusky away from the N10 would be my preferred option, but then you leave the N10 open with 7 members and due for god knows what. What is actually going on with all these ADs' and principals? You would think gate receipts would be the biggest indication that things are going ok in a broad, general sense, but how on earth can any of these admins possibly be so constantly insecure about their performance over the span of a few years? Did Buckeye Valley really have cause to leave the MOAC after being in it since 1990? I can't imagine that Columbus traffic is going to be joyful as time goes on. You hope they put as much time into these decisions are we do scrutinizing them... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 11:22:05 GMT -5
He claims to be a 50+ year old man lol This conference alignment stuff is nonsense. The movement is downright foolish at times. For the MOAC? Poaching Upper Sandusky away from the N10 would be my preferred option, but then you leave the N10 open with 7 members and due for god knows what. What is actually going on with all these ADs' and principals? You would think gate receipts would be the biggest indication that things are going ok in a broad, general sense, but how on earth can any of these admins possibly be so constantly insecure about their performance over the span of a few years? Did Buckeye Valley really have cause to leave the MOAC after being in it since 1990? I can't imagine that Columbus traffic is going to be joyful as time goes on. You hope they put as much time into these decisions are we do scrutinizing them... WINNER!!! |
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You've talked to all the coaches and every AD at all schools? After speaking with Ontario's AD yesterday I know for a FACT they have no problem with a 7 school league. LIAR!