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Post by galion on Mar 15, 2018 5:41:52 GMT -5
But if they wait until their hand is forced there may be no place for them to go. I guess they could try to join the conference that BV just went to or hope that the OCC still exists and play against even larger schools than they will find in the MOAC. Again, the writing is on the wall.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 9:10:52 GMT -5
But if they wait until their hand is forced there may be no place for them to go. I guess they could try to join the conference that BV just went to or hope that the OCC still exists and play against even larger schools than they will find in the MOAC. Again, the writing is on the wall. In order to be forced out, the schools of the KMAC would need a school to replace them OR want to be a league of 7. Do they have a replacement or want to be a league of 7? As much as Highland has avoided a league of schools their size and bigger it would surprise me for them to voluntarily make that move now. I'm not saying it will or will not happen, I'm just asking thoughts and offering what I have heard. |
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Post by galion on Mar 15, 2018 12:40:52 GMT -5
Are you serious? They could have Lucas or Crestline in a second.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2018 13:03:14 GMT -5
Are you serious? They could have Lucas or Crestline in a second. Dang right I'm serious. That is the reason for the question. |
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Post by GHS 1999 on Mar 15, 2018 16:33:44 GMT -5
Are you serious? They could have Lucas or Crestline in a second. Dang right I'm serious. That is the reason for the question. If not Crestline or Lucas, how about Loudonville or Utica? |
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Post by gtab on Mar 15, 2018 20:53:16 GMT -5
Because they a no longer a tiny rural district. If you look at the big picture there is no way that they can stay in the KMAC long term. They will eventually get forced out one way or another. If you look at the improvements and expenditures that they have made on their facilities recently they clearly no longer consider themselves to be a tiny rural district either. Right now hey have an opportunity to move into a local conference with like sized schools. They also have an administrator from Ontario who can also see the similarities between Highland's situation now and Ontario's situation in the NCC. We all know how the latter turned out. If they wait until they have to move who knows what if any options will be available. There are a few schools in our local area that see themselves as "tiny" schools and that is not the case. Highland has been D4 in football for many years and that is not "tiny" but they still want to be connected to the smaller schools either because of location or competition. As you mentioned, Ontario is similar and they never made a move until their hand was forced. I can see Highland doing the same. Anyway you stir the drink here, Highland is in the cat bird seat; being able to move (if they want to) or stay (if they want to). Either way, it's their call. I can think of a handful of schools, a few years ago, that wished they had a "choice". Good on "Highland". |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 8:14:05 GMT -5
I think you are correct, but their past would tell us they don't want to make the move.
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Post by galion on Mar 16, 2018 12:27:43 GMT -5
Perhaps they don't wish to live in the past and have an eye to the future. If they are adding white collar working families from the Columbus area and wish to continue doing so, as it only increases their tax base, then they may wish to transform the perception of their district.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 15:04:37 GMT -5
Perhaps they don't wish to live in the past and have an eye to the future. If they are adding white collar working families from the Columbus area and wish to continue doing so, as it only increases their tax base, then they may wish to transform the perception of their district. What supports that thought of “perhaps”? |
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 16, 2018 16:43:34 GMT -5
The MOAC did send a letter of interest to Highland but they have yet to respond. Sounds like they are between a rock and a hard spot.
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Post by 4 on Mar 16, 2018 22:51:48 GMT -5
i would gladly have highland in moac personally.
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Post by Eagles nest on Mar 17, 2018 9:55:25 GMT -5
Willard and Highland were sent letters to Join. If BV would have announced sooner Willard would have came in with Shelby. Now if Highland leaves the KMAC, they better prepare for the other Morrow county schools to rejoin the MOAC as well. They will go to a big school small school divisions.
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Post by wallpass on Mar 17, 2018 13:50:23 GMT -5
OK, here is the reason that I have been given for Highland's interest in moving to the MOAC and it is not necessarily what you might think. Varsity sports wise they are fine. It is the fact that only two other teams in the league had JV football teams, no freshman basketball teams at many other league schools and I believe the league did not have 7th grade girls basketball teams this year. At a school the size of Highland, you are going to lose a lot of kids from sports if there are no lower level teams for them to play on and get better. If you go ahead and have those teams and nobody else in your league does, it makes it a nightmare for the AD to get them games to fill their schedule. Couple that with boys and girls soccer teams who are having to play an independent schedule and now you start to see the frustration.
I don't think Highland really wants to leave the KMAC but the fact that the other schools cannot be relied upon to even produce teams at all levels of their existing sports let alone come up with teams in "new" sports like soccer is making them question the long term impact on athletic teams.
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Post by moacmama on Mar 17, 2018 16:33:25 GMT -5
Makes sense for Highland, but.....I guess the grass isn't always greener on the other side!
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 17, 2018 18:31:11 GMT -5
OK, here is the reason that I have been given for Highland's interest in moving to the MOAC and it is not necessarily what you might think. Varsity sports wise they are fine. It is the fact that only two other teams in the league had JV football teams, no freshman basketball teams at many other league schools and I believe the league did not have 7th grade girls basketball teams this year. At a school the size of Highland, you are going to lose a lot of kids from sports if there are no lower level teams for them to play on and get better. If you go ahead and have those teams and nobody else in your league does, it makes it a nightmare for the AD to get them games to fill their schedule. Couple that with boys and girls soccer teams who are having to play an independent schedule and now you start to see the frustration. I don't think Highland really wants to leave the KMAC but the fact that the other schools cannot be relied upon to even produce teams at all levels of their existing sports let alone come up with teams in "new" sports like soccer is making them question the long term impact on athletic teams. That would help them save face from starting this league so recently. Sounds like it's a matter of time then IMO. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 17, 2018 19:40:20 GMT -5
Willard and Highland were sent letters to Join. If BV would have announced sooner Willard would have came in with Shelby. Now if Highland leaves the KMAC, they better prepare for the other Morrow county schools to rejoin the MOAC as well. They will go to a big school small school divisions. No letters to Upper and Kenton? |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 17, 2018 19:49:46 GMT -5
OK, here is the reason that I have been given for Highland's interest in moving to the MOAC and it is not necessarily what you might think. Varsity sports wise they are fine. It is the fact that only two other teams in the league had JV football teams, no freshman basketball teams at many other league schools and I believe the league did not have 7th grade girls basketball teams this year. At a school the size of Highland, you are going to lose a lot of kids from sports if there are no lower level teams for them to play on and get better. If you go ahead and have those teams and nobody else in your league does, it makes it a nightmare for the AD to get them games to fill their schedule. Couple that with boys and girls soccer teams who are having to play an independent schedule and now you start to see the frustration. I don't think Highland really wants to leave the KMAC but the fact that the other schools cannot be relied upon to even produce teams at all levels of their existing sports let alone come up with teams in "new" sports like soccer is making them question the long term impact on athletic teams. Highland is the only school in the KMAC with Boys and Girls Soccer. No Girls Tennis. No Boys Tennis No Swimming. |
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Post by wallacefan on Mar 17, 2018 21:36:32 GMT -5
Willard and Highland were sent letters to Join. If BV would have announced sooner Willard would have came in with Shelby. Now if Highland leaves the KMAC, they better prepare for the other Morrow county schools to rejoin the MOAC as well. They will go to a big school small school divisions. LOL. Willard didn’t even get a “Happy St. Patrick’s Day Card”, much less an offer to the MOAC. Neither interest on either side. Nor has there been for the last 2 years. But then you swear that Pleasant is going to the N10 next year, which is hilarious since no one from the N10 has even contacted them at all, and they aren’t leaving the MOAC anyway. We all know you are a Harding fan, just stick to Harding news. Shelby practically begged Willard to be interested, but they wanted to stay North. So the thing about BV also isn’t true, because not sure at all that Willard would have been approved. LONG drive for the southern schools. The last part about the other Morrow county schools is obvious. If Highland comes, they might be interested. Long way from that at this point. As for Willard Fillmore’s question: No interest in Kenton. Upper is happy in the N10. |
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Post by gtab on Mar 17, 2018 22:27:42 GMT -5
OK, here is the reason that I have been given for Highland's interest in moving to the MOAC and it is not necessarily what you might think. Varsity sports wise they are fine. It is the fact that only two other teams in the league had JV football teams, no freshman basketball teams at many other league schools and I believe the league did not have 7th grade girls basketball teams this year. At a school the size of Highland, you are going to lose a lot of kids from sports if there are no lower level teams for them to play on and get better. If you go ahead and have those teams and nobody else in your league does, it makes it a nightmare for the AD to get them games to fill their schedule. Couple that with boys and girls soccer teams who are having to play an independent schedule and now you start to see the frustration. I don't think Highland really wants to leave the KMAC but the fact that the other schools cannot be relied upon to even produce teams at all levels of their existing sports let alone come up with teams in "new" sports like soccer is making them question the long term impact on athletic teams. Highland is the only school in the KMAC with Boys Soccer. No Girls Soccer. No Girls Tennis. No Boys Tennis No Swimming. Not to be difficult or anything here; but, Highland "does" have girls soccer. Galion beat them (1-0 @ Galion) for the Tigers first ever Varsity Girls Soccer victory last year. I was there. I know the GHS girls head coach quite well. Or am I misreading you post ?  |
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Post by babymaker on Mar 18, 2018 10:55:50 GMT -5
Willard and Highland were sent letters to Join. If BV would have announced sooner Willard would have came in with Shelby. Now if Highland leaves the KMAC, they better prepare for the other Morrow county schools to rejoin the MOAC as well. They will go to a big school small school divisions. No letters to Upper and Kenton? Upper is not coming they wanted out the MOAC before when they were in the big school division (which is what is left of the MOAC) they only lasted one year and could not wait to get out. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 21:48:07 GMT -5
No reason for Upper or Kenton to make a change and Willard going back to bigger schools and driving an hour south makes little sense to most.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Mar 19, 2018 14:55:00 GMT -5
Highland is the only school in the KMAC with Boys Soccer. No Girls Soccer. No Girls Tennis. No Boys Tennis No Swimming. Not to be difficult or anything here; but, Highland "does" have girls soccer. Galion beat them (1-0 @ Galion) for the Tigers first ever Varsity Girls Soccer victory last year. I was there. I know the GHS girls head coach quite well. Or am I misreading you post ? You didn't misread, I did. When I went to the KMAC website it listed "soccer" as a sport, as opposed to distinguishing when it noted boys and girls basketball, boys and girls CC, boys and girls bowling and boys and girls track. I assumed there was only a boys soccer team. Due to, unless you're an all girls school, usually boys soccer is started before girls soccer. Thanks, I'll correct |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 8:56:34 GMT -5
Lots of people at the state tournament with lots of talk. Upper and Kenton have not been seriously considered, according to who I spoke with. Highland. although could be a good fit, is not looking to make a move at this time. A Willard coach says they like where they are they just want to remain with smaller schools and are in the process of lightening their non league schedules.
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Post by usramfan on Mar 28, 2018 10:37:57 GMT -5
Upper will not leave the N10 (or N9, as it now stands).
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Post by wallpass on Apr 2, 2018 14:54:00 GMT -5
MOAC needs to find a new school soon as most have a 2 year out and if BV leaves in 2 years my guess another school would need to notify their league by the end of June (that's only 3 months away) or the league will be forced to play an uneven schedule for at least a year in football (9 teams means everyone has a bye week in the league and those are tough to fill at the end of the season).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 21:43:15 GMT -5
Some think they are waiting for Highland to jump. Wonder what Plan B is?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 19:22:07 GMT -5
Some think they are waiting for Highland to jump. Wonder what Plan B is? Better start working on Plan B. |
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Post by kingmartinez on May 6, 2018 20:16:43 GMT -5
Highland declined the opportunity to join the MOAC, as dude alludes to. Not sure what their plan B is. Dude, any ideas?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 7:45:16 GMT -5
Nothing being done ASAP with everyone focusing on the end of their fall seasons. The idea is they have a little time and will talk more in June.
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Post by ohioraised on May 9, 2018 16:41:45 GMT -5
Highland is staying in the KMAC. So do we look at Loudonville?
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