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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2021 10:46:38 GMT -5
Back to the topic of football. How about a rundown of what we have with area leagues. NLL - 11 teams. That number is just not going to work. They need to either add a 12th school or squeeze someone out. BVC - North Baltimore and Cory Rawson will be gone after next year. Arcadia is exploring other options. Vanlue is on borrowed time. SBC - Oak Harbor will be gone to the NBC after next school year. Woodmore will be coming to the River at the same time as well as Willard. New enrollment numbers come out in the spring so we will see where everyone will end up once that time comes. IMO this divisions thing needs to end. When THIS "division thing" started I said it was problematic.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2021 10:54:20 GMT -5
300 people at a soccer game is called the State Finals. To put into perspective how many people 2000 at a game is...Clinton Massie and Bloom Carroll sold 1726 combined tickets for their state semi-final game this year and each team traveled roughly an hour to their neutral site. 300 people at a soccer game must be more common outside of the SBC games. A local 2021 District final girls game sold 344 tickets. I saw a boys District Final Soccer game that nearly filled one side of Arlin Field. You don't see that at most Mansfield Senior football games
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Post by Hummingbird on Dec 16, 2021 11:06:50 GMT -5
Back to the topic of football. How about a rundown of what we have with area leagues. NLL - 11 teams. That number is just not going to work. They need to either add a 12th school or squeeze someone out. BVC - North Baltimore and Cory Rawson will be gone after next year. Arcadia is exploring other options. Vanlue is on borrowed time. SBC - Oak Harbor will be gone to the NBC after next school year. Woodmore will be coming to the River at the same time as well as Willard. New enrollment numbers come out in the spring so we will see where everyone will end up once that time comes. IMO this divisions thing needs to end. When THIS "division thing" started I said it was problematic. Why is it "problematic"? Someone else that has no idea
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Post by dude on Dec 16, 2021 11:29:52 GMT -5
When THIS "division thing" started I said it was problematic. Why is it "problematic"? Someone else that has no idea Trying to keep 8 schools in a league happy and on the same page can be difficult. Trying to keep 20 schools on the same page and happy is impossible.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 16, 2021 12:27:16 GMT -5
When THIS "division thing" started I said it was problematic. Why is it "problematic"? Someone else that has no idea THE "idea"..... keeping everyone happy and relative stability. In this area compare Firelands vs SBC.
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Post by tonyperkis on Jan 10, 2022 14:33:40 GMT -5
Change and outside the box thinking is really hard for some, especially adults. It even makes some angry. how is your baseball team at Terra going to be?
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Post by sbclives on Jan 17, 2022 19:15:52 GMT -5
Swanton has officially turned down the invite from the TAAC. I’m guessing they enjoy the stability of the NWOAL.
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Post by maplecityjake on Jan 18, 2022 0:25:09 GMT -5
Swanton has officially turned down the invite from the TAAC. I’m guessing they enjoy the stability of the NWOAL. Bulldogs should stay. Might struggle some, but I believe the NWOAL to be an excellent League.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 18, 2022 0:40:34 GMT -5
Swanton has officially turned down the invite from the TAAC. I’m guessing they enjoy the stability of the NWOAL. Bulldogs should stay. Might struggle some, but I believe the NWOAL to be an excellent League. I agree it is a good league. I could see the TAAC not existing in the next 5-10 years.
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Post by sbclives on Feb 10, 2022 11:30:54 GMT -5
Just seen on another site that the NLL will be making an announcement by the end of the month.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 10, 2022 12:28:27 GMT -5
Just seen on another site that the NLL will be making an announcement by the end of the month. Hopefully, it's to add Lima as Football only
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Post by sbclives on Feb 10, 2022 13:15:23 GMT -5
Just seen on another site that the NLL will be making an announcement by the end of the month. Hopefully, it's to add Lima as Football only That was one of my two guesses. The other was they found a 12th school for all sports. I’d put my money on Lima being football because I honestly don’t see this NLL lasting long.
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Post by crimsonblooded on Feb 11, 2022 17:44:40 GMT -5
I like the SBC for wrestling, it’s nice having a 16 man bracket for a conference. Another nice thing is half the schools going D2 for sectionals and the other half going D3 the following week. Since the playoffs in football are easy to get into now compared to the past why not play conference home and away with the fewer conference Division teams. Five in the lake as well as the Bay. There is 8 games then schedule two non conference. At least till you take in new members. I know everything is based off football and Clyde and Bellevue playing twice should be good at the gate. Anyhow not sure how a home and away would be received but I think a lot of times these teams would split. All this being said in a perfect world the conference should be based on wrestling. As we know the world isn’t perfect!
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Post by fbfan on Feb 11, 2022 18:37:02 GMT -5
I like the SBC for wrestling, it’s nice having a 16 man bracket for a conference. Another nice thing is half the schools going D2 for sectionals and the other half going D3 the following week. Since the playoffs in football are easy to get into now compared to the past why not play conference home and away with the fewer conference Division teams. Five in the lake as well as the Bay. There is 8 games then schedule two non conference. At least till you take in new members. I know everything is based off football and Clyde and Bellevue playing twice should be good at the gate. Anyhow not sure how a home and away would be received but I think a lot of times these teams would split. All this being said in a perfect world the conference should be based on wrestling. As we know the world isn’t perfect! Given the current situation in the SBC (having two 5 team divisions), I think that might be a workable solution. There are probably some negatives to it, but I can't think of any off hand right now. Certainly better than everyone trying to fill open weeks during the middle of the season when other leagues are in the middle of their league schedules. And forcing crossover games that no one really wants to play.
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Post by falcon87 on Feb 12, 2022 8:39:32 GMT -5
I like the SBC for wrestling, it’s nice having a 16 man bracket for a conference. Another nice thing is half the schools going D2 for sectionals and the other half going D3 the following week. Since the playoffs in football are easy to get into now compared to the past why not play conference home and away with the fewer conference Division teams. Five in the lake as well as the Bay. There is 8 games then schedule two non conference. At least till you take in new members. I know everything is based off football and Clyde and Bellevue playing twice should be good at the gate. Anyhow not sure how a home and away would be received but I think a lot of times these teams would split. All this being said in a perfect world the conference should be based on wrestling. As we know the world isn’t perfect! Given the current situation in the SBC (having two 5 team divisions), I think that might be a workable solution. There are probably some negatives to it, but I can't think of any off hand right now. Certainly better than everyone trying to fill open weeks during the middle of the season when other leagues are in the middle of their league schedules. And forcing crossover games that no one really wants to play. The reason you only play a team once in football has been due to playoff points. You couldn’t count point from more than 1 contest against a single team. I haven’t heard this rule has changed and I imagine only getting 6 games that count could make getting into the playoffs difficult.
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Post by maplecityjake on Feb 12, 2022 8:54:54 GMT -5
I think it was 1989 when Hopewell-Loudon and North Baltimore played each other 2x. One was counted non-league and other MAL
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 12, 2022 9:15:50 GMT -5
Given the current situation in the SBC (having two 5 team divisions), I think that might be a workable solution. There are probably some negatives to it, but I can't think of any off hand right now. Certainly better than everyone trying to fill open weeks during the middle of the season when other leagues are in the middle of their league schedules. And forcing crossover games that no one really wants to play. The reason you only play a team once in football has been due to playoff points. You couldn’t count point from more than 1 contest against a single team. I haven’t heard this rule has changed and I imagine only getting 6 games that count could make getting into the playoffs difficult. Has anyone seen this in writing? I’ve heard it a few times but wondered if it’s actually the case because I’ve never seen it in writing.
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Post by fbfan on Feb 12, 2022 12:32:39 GMT -5
The reason you only play a team once in football has been due to playoff points. You couldn’t count point from more than 1 contest against a single team. I haven’t heard this rule has changed and I imagine only getting 6 games that count could make getting into the playoffs difficult. Has anyone seen this in writing? I’ve heard it a few times but wondered if it’s actually the case because I’ve never seen it in writing. Football Tournament Regulations from the OHSAA website: ohsaaweb.blob.core.windows.net/files/Sports/Football/2021/2021FootballTournamentRegulations.pdfI didn't see a prohibition on playing/counting the result of playing a team twice. However, I'm just guessing, it may cause a glitch in the computer program if they try to enter two games between the same two teams.
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Post by sbclives on Feb 24, 2022 15:22:56 GMT -5
I seen the OHSAA just came out with updated enrollment numbers for the next couple years and I know this isn’t counting the CB numbers yet but a few I found interesting.
Willard 199 Port Clinton 194 Edison 157 Huron 154
If the Divisions are split up by enrollment then what will the divisions look like when the new numbers are official?
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 24, 2022 17:07:07 GMT -5
I seen the OHSAA just came out with updated enrollment numbers for the next couple years and I know this isn’t counting the CB numbers yet but a few I found interesting. Willard 199 Port Clinton 194 Edison 157 Huron 154 If the Divisions are split up by enrollment then what will the divisions look like when the new numbers are official? Divisions are set through spring 25 so these numbers will be used for fall 25- spring 27.
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Post by todd on Feb 24, 2022 21:30:43 GMT -5
I seen the OHSAA just came out with updated enrollment numbers for the next couple years and I know this isn’t counting the CB numbers yet but a few I found interesting. Willard 199 Port Clinton 194 Edison 157 Huron 154 If the Divisions are split up by enrollment then what will the divisions look like when the new numbers are official? Divisions are set through spring 25 so these numbers will be used for fall 25- spring 27. And Willard gets to go to the River with the largest enrollment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 12:21:00 GMT -5
well then based on the number released now, willard in theory would move to the Bay in FB and Perkins and Bellevue would flip in the Lake and Bay divisions. Huron moved into the River then.
Does competitive balance count towards this though? If so, it may change some schools numbers and keep things more status quo.
It will be interesting to see this all play out.
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 25, 2022 12:38:08 GMT -5
well then based on the number released now, willard in theory would move to the Bay in FB and Perkins and Bellevue would flip in the Lake and Bay divisions. Huron moved into the River then. Does competitive balance count towards this though? If so, it may change some schools numbers and keep things more status quo. It will be interesting to see this all play out. No. Competitive balance is not figured in for their realignment.
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Post by dude on Feb 25, 2022 13:54:59 GMT -5
I seen the OHSAA just came out with updated enrollment numbers for the next couple years and I know this isn’t counting the CB numbers yet but a few I found interesting. Willard 199 Port Clinton 194 Edison 157 Huron 154 If the Divisions are split up by enrollment then what will the divisions look like when the new numbers are official? Divisions are set through spring 25 so these numbers will be used for fall 25- spring 27. I was thinking the enrollment numbers are set but the divisions can adjust each year because of the CB number that can change with each season?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 15:05:22 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe there's gonna be exactly 194 kids at Port Clinton in the Fall of '25, When it's the Winter of '22. There could be some population changes in 2 2/3 years. I think they're guessing to far in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 18:15:05 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe there's gonna be exactly 194 kids at Port Clinton in the Fall of '25, When it's the Winter of '22. There could be some population changes in 2 2/3 years. I think they're guessing to far in advance. [b It's boys count they use
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 25, 2022 18:18:10 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe there's gonna be exactly 194 kids at Port Clinton in the Fall of '25, When it's the Winter of '22. There could be some population changes in 2 2/3 years. I think they're guessing to far in advance. "kids" or boys?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Feb 25, 2022 18:18:54 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe there's gonna be exactly 194 kids at Port Clinton in the Fall of '25, When it's the Winter of '22. There could be some population changes in 2 2/3 years. I think they're guessing to far in advance. [b It's boys count they use for boys sports
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 25, 2022 19:48:18 GMT -5
[b It's boys count they use for boys sports Boys count for football only. Others are combined boys and girls.
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Post by kingmartinez on Feb 25, 2022 19:49:41 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe there's gonna be exactly 194 kids at Port Clinton in the Fall of '25, When it's the Winter of '22. There could be some population changes in 2 2/3 years. I think they're guessing to far in advance. The count of 194 is for this year. It’s the count the SBC uses when the next realignment occurs which is this coming fall but will not be in place until 25. Scheduling needs to happen that far out apparently.
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