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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 27, 2017 16:44:17 GMT -5
I should add, Willard football was never great but it was never consistently bad we had our ups and downs. All of that was pre-Thunderbolts. Since the start of Thunderbolts every kid that has made it to the Varsity level has seen nothing but losing. How long do you stick with something that isn't working out? Thunderbolts isn't helping the Varsity have success if anything the results look like it's making the Varsity worse. Is the purpose of the Thunderbolts to help the Varsity or is the purpose of the Thunderbolts to help grown-ups live out their dream of being tackle football coaches? And it doesn't have anything to do with a change in the town's demographics? More rentals and less home ownership. That draws in a group of less motivated people. Football is hard work. Where do you learn that when mom walks to the mailbox for the check. It's happened in Shelby, too. The kids that do have a work ethic are often doing just that, working. They need school clothes, a car, etc. My point is blaming the Thunderbolts exclusively is an oversimplification. Do programs need to reevaluate to see if what we've always done still works? Sure. Is the across the board scrapping of peewee football going to fix this. Nope.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 26, 2017 5:27:34 GMT -5
Maybe somebody from Shelby could help me here. I was told that the four players from Shelby were suspension for 5 games but last night the announcers were saying they were suspended for 3 games. which one is right? Three players for three games. One player got 4 because he had a previous minor offense.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 25, 2017 18:07:32 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it but, I'm missing hudsons assessment of his Rams performance last night. I feel like he'd find a way to spin it in Madison's favor.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 25, 2017 18:02:57 GMT -5
I believe 7 different players scored TD's and two were freshmen. Hill was the only major offensive threat that didn't and he probably had 100 or more kick return yards. All that with the two biggest threats on the bench. The offensive line is solid. Scoring won't be an issue. The D was solid, but who knows how good. They weren't really challenged. Madison didn't get more than a half dozen first downs. I believe the unsportsmanlike call was for an overzealous comment by a kid who just stuffed a run. There may have been a little frustration. When it was clear Madison had nothing to lose they got a little chippy. Lex will definitely offer more of a challenge, but I'm more optimistic now. If they clean up the penalties I think they win.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 24, 2017 19:29:55 GMT -5
It's on WMFD.
Shelby returned the opening kickoff, but it was called back on a block in the back.
Madison has two first downs (one on a muddle huddle punt) and one big play and managed 10 point. It's like a baseball team that manages 2-3 runs on one hit.
Shelby had a couple of drives stall because someone isn't set before the snap. That's expected when you have a first time starting sophomore QB. With experience he'll slow down and make sure everyone is set. He's making some good reads and throws. Hill is giving Shelby great starting field position in the kicking game. Balanced with three different kids scoring and three more that can (not to mention two more in street clothes that can).
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 21, 2017 6:55:09 GMT -5
To boil the Civil War down to slaves or no slaves is an oversimplification. That's the issue we were taught about in school. There were other issues. To assume that everyone who fought for the south was fighting for slavery is an inaccurate assumption. Most who fought and died didn't own a single slave. We'll never know what percentage gave a rat's butt what color someone's skin was. Destroying history isn't going to change it. Learning from it will change our future and that's all we have control over. How is removing monuments destroying history? Your welcome to read about it at any library. Gettysburg and the other prominent battle fields are still open as well. I recommend it if you haven't been there. But glorifying those people and their actions is not appropriate. Read my previous post. I agree 100% with removing them from a position of prominence. I don't advocate destroying them (which is what happened).
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 20, 2017 11:17:47 GMT -5
To boil the Civil War down to slaves or no slaves is an oversimplification. That's the issue we were taught about in school. There were other issues. To assume that everyone who fought for the south was fighting for slavery is an inaccurate assumption. Most who fought and died didn't own a single slave. We'll never know what percentage gave a rat's butt what color someone's skin was. Destroying history isn't going to change it. Learning from it will change our future and that's all we have control over.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 19, 2017 13:23:32 GMT -5
If you destroy history you lose it. It cannot recreated. Many of these symbols need removed from positions of prominence, but under no circumstances should they be destroyed.
Anyone been to the Holocaust Museum in DC? It is full of disturbing images. Swastikas, etc. Should it be destroyed because it is offensive? I realize that's not an apples to apples comparison. One is educating and reminding the other is memoralizing and glorifying, but the point is this. Destroying that history doesn't erase its existence and it runs the risk of us forgetting it and repeating it.
Should a statue of a general who did atrocious things be displayed prominently at a state house? How about a Confederate Flag fly over a government building? No and no. Should they be destroyed? Absolutely not. They should be placed in a museum with an appropriate explanation on a plaque beside them.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 19, 2017 9:29:33 GMT -5
I heard Clear Fork demolished Madison. Anyone have the details/confirm this?
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 18, 2017 18:47:12 GMT -5
Galion v. Shelby.
Galion ones v. Shelby ones minus the suspended players - Shelby 14-0.
Galion ones v. Shelby full ones - one play Shorty Brooks 80 yard TD.
Back to Shelby minus the suspended players. Shelby another TD.
Shelby full ones one more play. 55 yard TD Armstrong to Carter Brooks.
Shelby ones minus suspended players - another TD.
Armstrong and S. Brooks ran two plays - two TD's.
Halftime.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 18, 2017 18:40:03 GMT -5
Who do you trust to set the standards? Congress and the Supreme Court. If I can't just say myself... You have more faith than me. I think I'll leave it open even if the speech disturbs me because I don't want anyone else telling me what's right or wrong.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 18, 2017 15:56:04 GMT -5
Here's the thing, they have a constitutional right to assembly just like everyone else. And they really shouldn't. I think it's a misreading of the first amendment to protect hate speech. Who do you trust to set the standards?
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 18, 2017 15:55:28 GMT -5
i do think it is a shame that there doesn't seem to be a forum for rural white folks, who genuinely feel that their culture is under attack (and let's be honest, rightly or wrongly it is under attack) to speak where their efforts aren't undermined by hanger-on skinheads/hate groups and also violent protesters from the left those folks have no voice in the mainstream press, and that is why you get Donald Trump as President in one of the greatest backlash elections ever...because, keeping with the honest theme, Obama and Pelosi are also why we have Donald Trump as President i think it is great to celebrate other cultures and diversity, and i lived in a small rural town where it was 95% white and truth be told again, it ain't all that, i'd rather live where there is a little color in the rainbow but i'm not here to proselytize...however there is a culture that is being wiped off the face of the Earth, in part due to their own making, but one whose death-silence in the media and world at large is a little disturbing You'd appreciate a book called Hillbilly Eligy.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 16, 2017 18:01:29 GMT -5
Destroying a piece of history because its distasteful is bad. We lose it.
Removing it from an area of prominence out of respect for the people that history oppressed is an outstanding idea.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 16, 2017 17:38:29 GMT -5
Agreed. Different points on the same spectrum. Both disgusting and destructive. I know someone personally who was psychologically coerced into having sex and she bears every emotional scar as someone physically forced. I can't argue, though, that on an emotional level one is more disturbing.
My point is if we're going to move in the right direction toward mutual understanding we can't choose when a position suits us and when it doesn't. Trump is a pig and I'm disturbed he's the POTUS. Clinton used his power for evil, too. You can't put them on opposite sides of the argument to suit you.
You acknowledge what he did was wrong and I acknowledge what Trump did was worse and we find common ground. The world is now a better place 😜 .
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 16, 2017 17:27:08 GMT -5
I'm going to call BS when both sides spew it. I call BS on this. Conventional wisdom says this act was about power not sex. Clinton clearly was in a position of power and authority. If she had not "consented" would she still have her position? Could the POTUS have ruined her? Maybe she wanted it. Maybe she wanted her job. Human Resources 101. When my dog jumps up on the counter and steals a burger that is bad. Murder is bad. My dog jumping up on the counter is murder. Fire trucks are red. The apple is red. The apple is a fire truck. So, you're saying it's ok for the boss to have relations with his subordinate? What if the sub wants to end the relationship and the boss doesn't. Power is power. Physical, psychological, financial. It can all be wielded.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 16, 2017 17:24:31 GMT -5
I've lived my entire life (46 years) watching the US move, on the whole, in the right direction UNTIL the Obama and Trump presidencies. The only thing I can see they have in common is that they are further toward the extremes of their respective ideologies. I blame the media a lot because pitting extremes against each other makes for more entertaining, Roman colosseum style news. Shame on them and shame on us for swallowing it. We need to recognize our similarities more than our differences.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 16, 2017 17:16:44 GMT -5
ceo south - Well his opponent in the election was a women that defended "cigar 'em in the pussy". She not only defended her husband using a cigar at work on an employee she bashed the employee that was cigar'ed by her boss at work. Consensual act vs sexual assault... can you really not see the difference? I'm going to call BS when both sides spew it. I call BS on this. Conventional wisdom says this act was about power not sex. Clinton clearly was in a position of power and authority. If she had not "consented" would she still have her position? Could the POTUS have ruined her? Maybe she wanted it. Maybe she wanted her job. Human Resources 101.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 13, 2017 16:40:32 GMT -5
I fail to see the difference between escaping poverty and communist oppression or poverty and cartel violence and oppression. Call your Congressman and have him explain it to you.....lol The only difference is you can measure one with the evening news. The communist regime has been fed to you by the media. The drug cartels and their oppression has not been spoon fed to you by the news. As a result you swallow one like its sugar and minimize the other. As Americans we have an f'ing responsibility. About this I am passionate. We have to be better than everyone else. We have to be an example of freedom to the world. We have to be an example even when that example hurts. Otherwise we're hypocrites. If we're hypocrites then we don't have a leg to stand on when we fly into Africa, Serbia, Afghanistan, etc and try to prop up the "good guy." How can we promote freedom, the free market, opportunity if we don't represent that on a daily basis. Walls and deportation are easy. Giving hard working, good people a chance takes more work. If we aren't willing to put in the work then how can we expect it of anyone else?
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 12, 2017 4:47:55 GMT -5
P.S. If the playing field is level and the legal immigrant gets the job over the American then so be it. Game on.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 12, 2017 4:32:36 GMT -5
I really don't think this is rocket science. Water runs downhill. Make the path to legal immigration reasonably easy enough that immigrants don't feel the need to bypass it. Instead of wasting billions on a wall that won't work anyway (I hear crickets chirping when nobody will acknowledge that over 100 miles of ocean doesn't stop Cubans) and people to guard it why not pay people to help immigrants through the process. They could help them with paperwork. They could be trained to background check them. Link our computers with Mexico's criminal database and others that keep records on bad guys. That way we could weed out the drug dealers, terrorists, former felons, etc. Sure, it'll miss some. So does our current law enforcement on our own population. Any system based on freedom first is going to err in favor of bad guys (innocent until proven guilty, remember). Now we've documented them. They're going to pay taxes for the roads they drive on, the infrastructure they benefit from. Now the employer pays payroll taxes and into social security on them so the playing field is even when choosing between hiring legal citizens versus illegal immigrants. My idea costs less and even generates income.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 10, 2017 17:51:29 GMT -5
I've read your posts for years. You're smarter than that. What are the chances you get over the fence at a high school game without someone seeing you? It's not 2000 miles long. If you want to spend the money it makes more sense to me to spend it rounding illegals up and sending them back. If they can't get here in the first place, then you eliminate rounding them up and expelling them. The wall is a tremendous success for the Israeli's and when completed, it will be a tremendous success for America. Again, a 440 mile wall. Less than 25% of the amount needed to separate the US from Mexico.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 10, 2017 15:40:51 GMT -5
I can climb the fence and get into any high school football game without paying...so they shouldn't have built a fence? Nice logic there----If it isn't 100% effective it must be worthless. So much for locks on my doors, vaccinations and birth control. I've read your posts for years. You're smarter than that. What are the chances you get over the fence at a high school game without someone seeing you? It's not 2000 miles long. If you want to spend the money it makes more sense to me to spend it rounding illegals up and sending them back.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 10, 2017 9:57:14 GMT -5
So you think the White House should tear down the wall around it? How fast can I run across the border? How fast can I haul a ladder to the wall, set it up, then climb over it to get across the border? So if we have camera's set up which guy is more likely to be caught by a border agent? There is a reason why Leonidas and a mere 300 Spartans held off the entire Persian Army for days at Thermopylae, but hey what did Leonidas know about strategy, he should have met the Persian Army on a vast flat open plain and gotten wiped out in 10 minutes. How many feet of fence surround the White House? It's something less than 2000 miles. A little easier to surveillance. Ask a Vietnam vet about tunneling. It's a fairly low tech way to get from one point to another undetected. How deep is this wall going?
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 10, 2017 6:55:23 GMT -5
It's amazing how even the idea of how a wall works goes completely over liberals heads. Leonidas and 300 Spartans held off the entire Persian army for days at Thermopylae because they funneled them into a narrow pass. A border wall is the same concept. After the wall is built it funnels the illegals to the easiest places to get past. Hmmm, where do the border agents go? If the illegals are funneled to certain areas to cross are more or less border agents needed? Do you own an extension ladder? I just did an internet search. You can get a 24 foot fiberglass one for $250. A 48 foot aluminum one for $900. 48 feet!!! How tall is this thing going to be? 2000 miles of border?!? 103 miles of ocean doesn't stop Cubans. Listen, I'm on the side of legal immigration and I realize this is a waste of money. Don't even get me started on tunneling.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 10, 2017 4:53:45 GMT -5
For the record, my previous comment was regarding the border with Mexico. If you think we can keep Bieber out I'm more for the Canadian wall. It would probably be cheaper because it would take less of a wall.
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Post by fanofthegame on Aug 9, 2017 21:46:57 GMT -5
I did some quick math. It would take 60 million dollars just to put a six foot chain link fence along the whole border. No barbed wire on top. So we're talking something that a decent climber could get over or something a $50 pair of bolt cutters could cut open in two minutes. What are we talking about building here? Poured cement? Block? How high? Barbed or razor wire on top? Walls could be traversed even in medieval times. A couple of thick blankets over barbed wire. Or are we really going to up the ante and electrify that bad boy? Does any reasonably intelligent person think we can afford it or will it realistically slow anyone down. Heck, Cubans have miles of ocean and they make it. Someone enlighten me.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 24, 2017 20:40:56 GMT -5
It's in the Shelby Globe tonight. Timeline is next year or the year after depending on what they can work out.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 24, 2017 20:40:03 GMT -5
It's in the Shelby Globe tonight. Timeline is next year or the year after depending on what they can work out.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jul 24, 2017 5:07:47 GMT -5
If the illegals already here become legals how does that increase supply? They're already here and working. Are you expecting another wave to come? Also, if they are making more money then they will spend more money, which last I checked is still a win. You advocated an open border in your argument. There will be more.
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