|
Post by greenman on Nov 29, 2017 21:23:01 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 25, 2017 23:03:23 GMT -5
Your jealousy at my Music Band t-shirt is sooooo transparent. Saw them in concert at the Wolstein some years back - sold out crowd.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 25, 2017 4:17:18 GMT -5
^^^And Rose was 24-23 the previous two seasons. For 8 seasons before Rose arrived, Bucyrus had not had double digit wins. Also before Rose came to Bucyrus they had 2 winning seasons in the previous 29 years under 10 different coaches. Maybe we can agree something needs to change but changing the coach has not been the answer. 4 wins is also the least amount of wins in back to back seasons for Bucyrus since the 93/94 and 94/95 seasons when they combined to win 4 games also. So he had two of the most successful and two of the least successful seasons for Bucyrus in the last 25 years. Bucyrus administration must have felt the bad outweighed the good. I can understand both sides of it. 24-23 is a good 2 year period but 4-42 is not how you want to follow those 2 seasons. Best two year stretch for Bucyrus is a hair above .500? If your best is still "meh" at best, then you probably shouldn't feel too bad about showing the guy the door, especially if he is responsible for matching your two worst back-to-back seasons. On a related note, M'ville thought they had hit rock-bottom w/ 10 years of Reer; boy, were they ever wrong.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 25, 2017 4:12:43 GMT -5
Who's this "Take" guy that should be fired? Apparently, "fire" is now an adjective, acceptable to replace "hot" or "bold," and "take" now means "prediction," or sometimes even "statement," especially on the Tweeter. Only by working undercover in the schools was I able to compile this data, and many Bothans died to bring me this information. Since it's all now declassified and I've been reassigned, I can supply you with this gif of me at work in deep cover. You can't see it from the look on my face, but it was Hell, all of it.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 25, 2017 4:05:00 GMT -5
It doesn't seem possible that it has been 20 years since the Flyers last won a Firelands Conference Boys Basketball Title, but as you stated greenman, it is true. Basketball season almost seems anti-climatic after watching the Football and Volleyball teams.True. It's worse still in Monkeyville. Overall, FC Bball wasn't bad last year (IMO), but some years it's a total snoozefest.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 25, 2017 3:46:09 GMT -5
Huron had vacancies on the schedule for next year and after, St Paul turned the opportunity down, for some reason. Heard from someone else on here that it was the Toledo Diocese's say-so about playing the local Catholic circuit of old (Calvert, St. Joe, SMCC), though I highly doubt that. Hard to build a conference of strong programs as a collective when everyone "plays it safe" w/ their non-con schedule (which hasn't even guaranteed Ws for anybody but SP lately). Then it's back to being like a bad Three Stooges sketch, where year after year the teams take turns slapping each other round-robin style, with an obligatory acceptance of a two-fingers-in-the-eyes from NSP, the FC's "Untouchable Moe."
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 23, 2017 23:43:46 GMT -5
Flyers seem to lose serious steam in the winter sports - not saying they're cellar-dwellers in anything - but FB and VB seem to go farther with more frequency than anything they do Nov.-Feb. This upcoming campaign will mark the 20th year since the boys last won a BBall title, 15 for the girls.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 22, 2017 3:42:43 GMT -5
Mac is done. Confirmed. Not breaking news in Norwalk. Confirmed by who, if I may? No sarcasm intended, genuinely curious.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 22, 2017 3:37:02 GMT -5
With a .500 season last year and a 2-win season this year, I believe Ziegler should be afforded two more years to right the ship: one year to get the program off its knees, and another to set it back fully on course to be Lake Div. contenders. Everybody has down years; it's just the swing of the pendulum. I know I've given him a hard time in the past, but if we can withhold credit due to coaches by arguing they had talented players, we can excuse them a year or two when the well runs a little dry. I don't know what sort of talent is coming down the pipeline for Perkins, but I doubt we'll see another Irby anytime soon. A better bet for Ziegler would be to find a COACHING talent in the mold of Gary Quisno; if he can do that, he might have a chance to indeed right that ship in two years or so. Let’s face it, Ziegler benefitted a lot from Sandusky kids coming over from open enrollment in the past. Not many of those kids left in the program now. Saw Perkins play some freshman and JV games and I don’t think there’s much coming up in the program. At least not enough to contend with Sandusky, Clyde and Bellevue. No doubt. OE was a double-edged sword for Perkins, one that led to more bleeding out for Perkins itself than for its opponents. Initially, OE @ Perkins was a vehicle for certain families to get their kids away from the drama and distraction of their own school district, but waves of others from the same district would follow. Like the President has said about a certain country south of the border, "they weren't sending their best" at that point. The desire for a good education was there, but no clue that a school district's culture doesn't shape the behavior of students, the FAMILY does - at home - and that it's the student's behavior and choices that make the school culture. When Perkins began to look more and more like the school district many had fled, the wheels came off, especially after Sanders started pumping serious lifeblood into SCS. Between the imported player talent and the coaching talent that was always on borrowed time, Perkins had it good. As I said before, if Ziegler can find some coaching talent in the mold of Gary Quisno, or Perkins somehow finds a diamond in the coal mine of upcoming player talent, he may skipper the Pirates through the 2020 campaign. Alone, he lost - he's neither a great motivator nor great football mind, from what I've heard and seen.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 21, 2017 19:13:24 GMT -5
Dead in here..... We have two weeks until it all starts! Western lost a couple guys but returns alot of talent South Central has very good young talent NL lost some very key pieces but still have a couple St Paul lost most of the lineup but have a couple back and a couple good freshman Crestview lost their best player and not sure who else they have Plymouth will have a couple guards back but lost a couple key pieces Mapleton lost some good players and have heard a couple of their best returners might not play Monroeville lost something like 10 seniors on a bad team........ Losing those 10 Srs. might actually be a good thing for M'ville considering their last 3 seasons, but it won't likely materialize this year.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 21, 2017 13:51:06 GMT -5
With a .500 season last year and a 2-win season this year, I believe Ziegler should be afforded two more years to right the ship: one year to get the program off its knees, and another to set it back fully on course to be Lake Div. contenders. Everybody has down years; it's just the swing of the pendulum.
I know I've given him a hard time in the past, but if we can withhold credit due to coaches by arguing they had talented players, we can excuse them a year or two when the well runs a little dry. I don't know what sort of talent is coming down the pipeline for Perkins, but I doubt we'll see another Irby anytime soon. A better bet for Ziegler would be to find a COACHING talent in the mold of Gary Quisno; if he can do that, he might have a chance to indeed right that ship in two years or so.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 21, 2017 13:41:47 GMT -5
Mentor Colerain Avon Massillon SVSM Trotwood-Madison Shelby Clinton-Massie Eastwood Wheelersburg Marion Kirtland Cuy. Hts. St. Paul
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 21, 2017 13:39:44 GMT -5
Shelby St. Paul Trotwood-Madison Cuy. Hts. Eastwood Marion Massillon
54 pts.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 15, 2017 12:03:51 GMT -5
SP CH Danville Minster Kirtland LB Marion BR Eastwood Shelby Steubenville Bay Barberton Avon LaSalle St. I Whitmer Colerain Massillon C-M
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 15, 2017 11:58:01 GMT -5
Shelby Danville Eastwood LB SP Bay Whitmer
56 pts.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 12, 2017 1:38:33 GMT -5
Shelby Danville Eastwood LB SP Bay Whitmer
63 pts tiebreaker
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 10, 2017 11:32:33 GMT -5
DVII: Windham St. Paul P-G Minster
DVI: Coldwater Marion Hillsdale LB Norwayne Mogadore
DV: Pleasant Eastwood BR
DIV: Mooney CF Shelby C-M
DIII: Clyde Bay SVSM
DII: Hoban Bedford Avon OF Massillon
DI: St. X Colerain Whitmer St. I. St. Ed
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 10, 2017 11:23:42 GMT -5
CF SP Clyde Shelby Massillon Hillsdale Whitmer
Tiebreaker: 56 pts.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 6, 2017 10:40:59 GMT -5
Yeah I sloshed this up again. This is what happens when you can't stop responding outside as a rainstorm is starting. Sorry all. Maybe I'm just tired.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 5, 2017 14:36:09 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for that bit of honest perspective. Wish it would have been there to color our discussion a week or so ago about public/private separated playoffs. You know, that private school kids are still Ohioans, Americans, regular kids, too, just like the ones at the publics? Here I almost felt bad about arguing with you. Turns out, you're just an envious horse's jack wagon, like I first figured. Leave the dude alone he can root for/against whoever he wants. Everyone has their own formula to decide who they root for in games that they have no official ties or interests to. If he usually cheers for publics over privates he is aloud to. If this is related to an argument on a separate thread take it up on that thread. In this particular game it ended up not even mattering as both schools were public schools. Glad to see someone not present for his and my discussion weigh in, complete with shoddy spelling and grammar. I've no less right to speak my blarney on a blatant bias he explicitly betrayed weeks after having out it w/ me after I told some OTHER mealy-mouthed swamp toad to cry boo-hoo into his hankey when he (the OTHER) created a thread solely to ***** about private school talent. Since you admit you're unfamiliar with the source material, I offer you what I feel is a fair counterproposal: next time you feel like defusing an argument by jumping to one side of the line the sand (not exactly a good "Getting to Yes" tactic even if you ARE familiar eith argument), don't. Furthermore, how in the HELL does someone hailing from Galion's corner of NW Ohio NOT KNOW that St. Mary's is the name of the town, and that Watkins Memorial is the high school's name? This is isn't their first playoff rodeo. That alone is worthy of derision. Thumbing his nose at a population of TEENAGERS based on where their parent choose to education. Personally, I think that, like many of my so-called "countrymen" nowadays, he's having increasing difficulty keeping his venomous anti-Catlocism in the closet. It's America's last scceptable bigotry, after all, even in NW Ohio. Look at how quickly his diapers fill when he sees the word "Saint" or "St."
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 5, 2017 12:03:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, I was really hoping to be wrong on this one. I always root against the privates. Wow, thanks for that bit of honest perspective. Wish it would have been there to color our discussion a week or so ago about public/private separated playoffs. You know, that private school kids are still Ohioans, Americans, regular kids, too, just like the ones at the publics? Here I almost felt bad about arguing with you. Turns out, you're just an envious horse's ***, like I first figured.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 5, 2017 9:31:10 GMT -5
Calvert drags NSP kicking and screaming out of the FC, and drops them in the wilderness.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 5, 2017 0:35:25 GMT -5
Orange has got a pretty nice facility here. This is also the first time I've had Chick-fill-A from a HS concession stand. Went to school not far from Pepper Pike. Place is LOADED. Not as much as Hunting Valley, but close.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 1, 2017 17:18:44 GMT -5
At this point in the shared history of the three, that's almost a moot point, unless you're looking at it on a generational basis. The families that can afford St. Mary's will stay there because of the academics and culture of discipline, things that have weakened at Perkins in the last decade. Unless their students can enter Sandusky's gifted academy - that separates the haves from the have-nots all day - most parents outside Streak Nation feel there's no reason to bother at SHS, either. In 8 yrs., Wikel has amassed a record of 24 wins and 57 losses. A full fifty percent of those wins came in the 2014 and 2015 campaigns alone, the latter of which included a speedy exit from their first playoff appearance in a full decade. I understand the times have not been kind to SMCC and some of the smaller schools in the area (private or public), but at what point does an AD and a school system say "We're not going to give into apathy?" SMCC was bitching about the SBC as early as the 80s; after jumping ship - only to jump right back - and getting their way by being able to schedule the "fun-size" conference opponents they've wanted for decades, and they still put on the same shitshow they have since 2008. This was broken up by a two-year stint of decent play as SRL opponents of Lakota, St. Joe's, and St. Wendelin the one year out of two they felt like fielding a team. If the boys there do like Coach Wikel, and are willing to play for him, they've a funny way of showing it. Hard to tell, as I've never known anyone from SMCC to have a presence on the SBC boards here. Before anybody points the finger @ my alma mater, I get it, but one year (so far) in the cellar does not equate to a decade of putting up bad football against either opponents you've been playing for five decades or opponents you've WANTED to play for five decades. Wikel is the Head Football Coach AND Athletic Director. Hes probably not in a hurry to fire himself. just saying... This is the truth. Forgot Dennis Faber's been out of there for a while. In such a case, the admin may want to consider its options.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 1, 2017 14:08:28 GMT -5
SMCC needs SOMETHING to bring that program back into relevancy. Not lose kids to SHS and PHS? At this point in the shared history of the three, that's almost a moot point, unless you're looking at it on a generational basis. The families that can afford St. Mary's will stay there because of the academics and culture of discipline, things that have weakened at Perkins in the last decade. Unless their students can enter Sandusky's gifted academy - that separates the haves from the have-nots all day - most parents outside Streak Nation feel there's no reason to bother at SHS, either. In 8 yrs., Wikel has amassed a record of 24 wins and 57 losses. A full fifty percent of those wins came in the 2014 and 2015 campaigns alone, the latter of which included a speedy exit from their first playoff appearance in a full decade. I understand the times have not been kind to SMCC and some of the smaller schools in the area (private or public), but at what point does an AD and a school system say "We're not going to give into apathy?" SMCC was bitching about the SBC as early as the 80s; after jumping ship - only to jump right back - and getting their way by being able to schedule the "fun-size" conference opponents they've wanted for decades, and they still put on the same shitshow they have since 2008. This was broken up by a two-year stint of decent play as SRL opponents of Lakota, St. Joe's, and St. Wendelin the one year out of two they felt like fielding a team. If the boys there do like Coach Wikel, and are willing to play for him, they've a funny way of showing it. Hard to tell, as I've never known anyone from SMCC to have a presence on the SBC boards here. Before anybody points the finger @ my alma mater, I get it, but one year (so far) in the cellar does not equate to a decade of putting up bad football against either opponents you've been playing for five decades or opponents you've WANTED to play for five decades.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Nov 1, 2017 13:32:39 GMT -5
Streak Nation will be in the streets doing the Franklin Flop when they take this rematch.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Oct 31, 2017 11:59:09 GMT -5
NSP Calvert McComb P-G Minster Trimble LC
LB Hicksville Lima CC Coldwater Marion Fort Frye Berlin Center WR
Gilmour Acad. Eastwood Otsego Pleasant
CF Bellevue Shelby St. Mary's Mem.
Bay Sandusky Buckeye SVSM
Avon AW Northview Midview Ashland
Whitmer Mentor St. I Jackson St. Ed St. X. Colerain
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Oct 30, 2017 8:26:07 GMT -5
I'll hear it from the students next time I'm @ M'ville, but I sure am glad I opted to see the Holy War Ssturday rather than watch the contest @ Whitney Field.
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Oct 29, 2017 9:23:25 GMT -5
Bellevue Calvert Sandusky Otsego Shelby SE Bay
Tiebreaker: 48
|
|
|
Post by greenman on Oct 26, 2017 21:30:04 GMT -5
Already have to deal with inner city type school with Sandusky and those shannagins that come with them Wow why don’t you just really say whats on your mind. The SBC doesn’t want schools that have black people?? Idiotic things to post. If Fremont were to join the SBC, Sandusky and even suburban/ rural Perkins would still each be home to a higher rate of black Americans than Fremont. Furthermore, if you, JohnStudd, really believe that Sandusky kids are "inner city type," you have not spent much time in neither Sandusky schools nor a major American city. I have both experiences, teaching in them, in fact. SHS kids are most definitely rougher than their local peers, to be sure, but look like saints next to some kids in Cleveland and even in some of the eastern inner-ring 'burbs. Come off it.
|
|