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Post by moneyball on Nov 29, 2017 6:40:28 GMT -5
How did the Willard varsity girls do against upper? I try and follow them but could not get them on the radio last night and didn't hear how they did.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 27, 2017 7:50:26 GMT -5
Crickets...... Still nothing on how they played Wednesday vs. Col. Crawford or the rest of the scrimmages? Must not be very proud of how they looked. Not sure how they did but I usually don't put much weight into scrimmages. They kind of remind me of NFL preseason where my Browns were 4-0 and look where they are now. So if the Flashes lost this could mean good things for them in the regular season.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 22, 2017 13:07:47 GMT -5
On a separate note I see Willard is scrimmaging colonel Crawford today, good test for the Flashes as Crawford will have a very good team. Joe has this team scrimmaging a lot and this is good for them. They will be battle tested a little before tipoff against Upper.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 22, 2017 10:08:42 GMT -5
Man you guys just keep eating your own. Ya’ll talk more about kids that aren’t playing than the ones on the team. Just because every post does not highlight the talented kids we have playing does not mean we don't care about these kids that are playing. It is a conversation and if you don't like, don't respond.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 22, 2017 8:21:14 GMT -5
We have all done things for something to do and not because we love it. Sometimes, in high school, kids realize they are approaching the end and start to think maybe I should focus more on what I love and less on something I have just been doing to occupy my time. I believe a kid can play basketball and be a good baseball player, but if the kid truly loves baseball and does basketball only because his friends do or his parents want him to then it is not hard to understand that this kid may enjoy being in the batting cages in the winter instead of being on the court. And it does not have to be 5+ days a week. With 7-8 hours of school, 3+ hours given to winter practice, then homework, meals and some resting, it doesn't leave much time for the sport he loves. With most winter sports taking 6 days a week, if your heart isn't in it, that sport can become more of an obstacle. Now that is one hell of a response. You my friend fully understand what some of these kids go through. I applaud you for such a rational response.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 22, 2017 6:56:28 GMT -5
I hear the reasoning all of the time that a kid is quitting one sport to prepare for another. However, I fail to see how NOT playing a winter sport(b ball, wrestling, swimming) can possibly help to prepare you better for track. Unless this kid somehow miraculously has access to an indoor track facility 5+ days a week, that is utter nonsense. Does Willard actually have an indoor track program that practices everyday for him to participate in? Yes they do have a indoor program with a great coach that takes them to meets all winter. These freshman that everyone talks about that can play football and basketball can also run! Jerett was on the 4x8 relay that won the NOL his freshman year and went to regionals and he has big goals this spring to repeat! Anymore questions from anyone? So why didn't he do this last year (hmmmm)
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 14:38:33 GMT -5
Long time listener, first time caller sowemom18 setting the record straight and due to semantics the crowd still argues! Let's talk about the kids who are playing, even though I attend this site mostly for the arguments and to post like a 6th grade school girl. Reality is arguing like 6th grade school girl. Don't like the heat get out of the kitchen. As I stated earlier, this team has talent just like the teams in the past but I don't think anyone will ever say we don't have any talent like we have heard so many times in the past. These kids playing Varsity are some tough nosed kids and scrappers, they'll win some games because Joe will instill the fight in them and they'll play hard for him. They have a weak bench because they are young and some of the players that are upper classman that played last year are not playing this year. Had they, these freshman on Varsity could have stayed on JV and they would have been a pretty tough team. JV will win some games, they are hurting a little at the point though. Freshman will struggle but that is okay, new kids playing on the freshman team and this is a good sign for Joe's program.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 14:21:46 GMT -5
What is funny is people that talk out of both sides of their mouth. You can't get on here and defend an action and not expect to be questioned, you know that. If they don't want questioned they should not respond to these post. It is fun trying to figure out the games being played to hurt the teams and coaches. They were being questioned long before making their first post ever, solely to defend their son's decision. I don't see why the dad was mad, he was way over his head and should have never made it to the ranks of assistant to begin with. JV was a stretch too, maybe middle school would have been good for him. Never impressed with his ability to get players better but for some reason he kept being promoted. Perhaps Joe informed him he would not be a starter and that was the deciding factor.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 13:01:03 GMT -5
I think it's funny that people just assume they know more about what's going on in a person's family than the family themselves. What is funny is people that talk out of both sides of their mouth. You can't get on here and defend an action and not expect to be questioned, you know that. If they don't want questioned they should not respond to these post. It is fun trying to figure out the games being played to hurt the teams and coaches.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 12:36:23 GMT -5
Been reading this forum for years but have never been the topic so I guess I will make a entrance! I'd love to discuss my son and my family with you all. First of all you are all wrong my husband Jeremy and I would have loved nothing more than to see our son on the hardwood this year, especially since we have spent every winter for the last 13 years watching him on it. Working for the 4 years that actually matter. So to say we lead him not to play, yeah never... to much money and time invested to not play with 2 years left of school. I myself really thought he would walk into practice that Friday and was more heartbroken and believe me it wasn't a day anyone wanted to be home at my house! You see my husband and I remain coaches in the Willard school system and remain true Crimson Flashes (unlike you negative voices on here). We have nothing but respect for the Varsity basketball coach and his assistant this year and if you know anything about my son he was the ball boy for Coach Hirschy. Also I would like to add yes Coach B came to our home to talk with Jerett when his decision was made! Now to fill you all in about my son! He is a very dedicated and hard working boy. His passion is football and track. Last year he came to us and did not want to play( no matter what anyone wants to believe playing for his Dad and basically second Dad was not fun for him in any way) and we basically made him. So when he came to us this summer and sat us down with his plan for the winter we accepted it. He will be preparing for track this spring and football next fall. Along with rehabbing his knee he fought with all season and that he had a MRI on last week. When your heart is not in something and is other places no matter how much you would like to change it you can't. So all that being said my husband and I still support the Flashes and will continue to support the Flashes. We understand discipline is the key as you stated above that is why we have the kid we do thanks! He's a pretty dam good kid!!!! Now let's talk about the topic that this thread was started for Willard scrimmages and the boys that are playing basketball! Go Flashes.... Interesting response. In one sentence you say "you made him" and the next sentence you state "you accepted his decision" the next year. Just seems ironic that the year his dad and second dad were coaching you "made him play" but when there was another coach you "accepted his decision" not to play. Glad Joe came to your house to see why he would not play, that should happen with all athletes that were starters the year before and decide not to play the following year. No one is bringing your son's character into play here so no need to justify whether or not he is a good kid, he is a kid. The discussion is why are some of these kids that played last year not playing this year because Joe seems like a coach that brings discipline and structure and we would have liked to have saw these kids who played in the past still play today. The Flashes will be fine, they have talent and will work hard for quite a few wins this year.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 9:23:36 GMT -5
I've heard some say a 4 win season, If this is true why make a change. Serious question. The mighty board of education in all their infinite wisdom never makes a mistake and always holds people accountable, yes I am laughing out loud right now. This board wouldn't know a good coach from a bad coach, they go with who influences them the most. It was obvious this community likes these current board members otherwise they would have been replaced during this past election. You get what you pay for( or should I say vote for) so regardless of what anyone things about change, there will not be any real change at least for the next 4 years with Cok heading the BOE.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 9:14:24 GMT -5
I have to disagree that it is not a good idea to approach kids and ask them to play. This is like a big recruiting session when a coach has the luxury to walk the halls and talk to people that know who does and does not have basketball skills. Lets take for instance bailey, gardner, parrot, cofer and lietz. All these kids played last year (with the exception of gardner) and a coach isn't going to approach them and ask them to play? We are acting like it is beneath a coach to want kids to play for him yet we'll sit through years of struggles with not having enough kids to fill out rosters and complain when they struggle. I don't know if the coach asked these kids or not, my hope is yes and they had a good answer why they didn't want to play this year. With the sowers kid, what does different level of expectations mean? Was he told he would not start and that helped him make up his mind to play or not play? It is another shot at the former coach. How so?
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 8:51:40 GMT -5
What I really see happening with this turf is a fight for who gets to use it. The soccer team without a doubt will want to be on this field as much as they can. If the decision is made to not use the current soccer complex, I hate that they called it that, then the property should either be sold or refurbished into a possible site for the field house. Are they still planning on building the field house?
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 8:45:37 GMT -5
Kids are soft these days. Kids need rules, structure and discipline, that is what toughens kids up. I saw in the paper where the administration doesn't know how to handle the cell phone issue in the school, entitled kids. How about you set the rules and everyone follows them, including teachers. You let kids bring their cell phones to school but once the 1st bell rings they have to be off and in their locker or backpacks, no exceptions for them or the teachers. They can turn them back on once the last bell rings. Ritz stated they can't take the phones because of liability. Well, if a kid gets caught breaking the rules how about a policy where they cannot bring the phone back for a week, get caught twice it is a month and a 3rd time, no more phone. That would be the rule, it is as simple as that, Ritz. We say kids are soft, I think it is pampered and entitlement.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 8:35:49 GMT -5
Well of course the parent is going to say it is their kids choice. What else would anyone expect, her to come right out and say, we told him not to play. A starter to not playing because he just doesn't feel like it? Nobody buys that at all, the mom or dad or both have the say in this without a doubt. I think you are right, his parents influenced his decision making and that is sad.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 7:13:36 GMT -5
Yes, it was Charlie Frye. Really? I'm deeply surprised by two things here. 1. The school would turn down money, regardless of naming rights. 2. Charlie was willing to give up half his McDonald's commercial money to install a new field. Not saying this isn't true. Just surprised. If that is true that Charlie offered to pay and they turned it down for naming rights, shame on them.The Willard paper had something in it this week about naming rights policy, better late than never. Who would they want to name this field after, perhaps Coach King, I like the ring to that, King Field.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 21, 2017 7:06:33 GMT -5
That's usually not a good idea. Go with and respect the commitment of those who don't have to be asked to go out. I believe this is Coach Beddingfield's belief as well. I'm fairly sure a kid or two who chose not to play was approached, but not by Beddingfield, other people who are close to the program and just trying to help, on a side note.....I agree with Scarlet on the Sowers situation, he is a good kid and the family are solid people, simply the kids decision, he played with the team during the spring and early summer, I'm betting he chose not to play based on the different level of expectations (as well as other things) that this staff has set forth. I have to disagree that it is not a good idea to approach kids and ask them to play. This is like a big recruiting session when a coach has the luxury to walk the halls and talk to people that know who does and does not have basketball skills. Lets take for instance bailey, gardner, parrot, cofer and lietz. All these kids played last year (with the exception of gardner) and a coach isn't going to approach them and ask them to play? We are acting like it is beneath a coach to want kids to play for him yet we'll sit through years of struggles with not having enough kids to fill out rosters and complain when they struggle. I don't know if the coach asked these kids or not, my hope is yes and they had a good answer why they didn't want to play this year. With the sowers kid, what does different level of expectations mean? Was he told he would not start and that helped him make up his mind to play or not play?
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Post by moneyball on Nov 20, 2017 14:44:05 GMT -5
That is too bad. He could have been a decent player for this new team and new coach. Agreed, more than decent imo esp against this schedule. Do you know if the new coach approached him and tried to get him to play?
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Post by moneyball on Nov 20, 2017 14:38:36 GMT -5
That is too bad. He could have been a decent player for this new team and new coach.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 20, 2017 14:37:31 GMT -5
From the mother direct, the choice to play was his own. Yes they as a family support and love coach Long but not at the expense of ever telling their kids not to play a high school sport. On a personal note I'm sad to see him not play as he was one of the best players on the court in the tournament game last year, but respect his decision. You are saying he went from a starter as a Sophomore to not playing this year, that does not add up? I'm sure the discussion around the kitchen table with him present helped influence his thinking.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 20, 2017 14:35:01 GMT -5
moneyball, that's not true. What tommygunn wrote is false. This is how rumors get started. Is he playing then?
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Post by moneyball on Nov 20, 2017 14:18:42 GMT -5
So the Sowers kid isn't going out. I guess his dad and mom really pulled the carpet from under him when Long was fired and told him not to go out. How does the old saying go, "blood is thicker than water"? So the kid gets punished for the parent or the parent's buddy no longer being the coach. Almost comical how these people are self serving and would sacrifice their own kids to make a point.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 20, 2017 9:57:20 GMT -5
The first 10 yards of the turf is officially down Didn't someone offer to donate money to turf this field a few years back and due to naming rights someone said no?
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Post by moneyball on Nov 20, 2017 9:42:09 GMT -5
But yet, they didn't. Glad to hear the scrimmages have been going well. With the new coach and a changed schedule it sounds like we can expect a team with success of the old days. That kind of success may be a stretch, just hoping we are competitive this year and continue to build year after year, maybe another year (probably 2) before we can realistically start talking about championships Heard that the bench for the Varsity team is young and inexperienced. I would think having three freshman playing varsity that would be the case. Once these freshman are all juniors they will be a strong bunch, if they all continue to play. The sophomore class has a few good ballers but the freshman and 8th grade class has a load of kids that can play ball.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 10, 2017 14:39:17 GMT -5
I'n not sure this is the result that those who were involved in the "debate" expected with the exception of Ric Willoughby. I think that the fact that Audrey Rose had moved back here in the last few years didn't help her chances. With that being said ... she still got more votes than Donna Cok. After the debate ... I think that Cok and Lawrence both looked as though they were running with a vendetta in mind. For whatever the reason ... the voters have spoken. At the end of the day ... this shows that the silent majority gets out and votes. I thought rose, slone and d. cok would get on. Rose seems like a peace keeper, Cok seemed like she would hold people accountable and Slone does a ton for the school and the community. They all three appear to care about the kids and want to do what is right. Lawrence can be outspoken and I think that hurt his chances. Some people don't like people that speak their minds, Lawrence will. Rod and Marsha got on because the pool was diluted with too many people running. The other thing that hurt those three, people over 60 are a majority of your voters in a non-presidential election. The people that wanted change and could have benefited from it the most are not typically voters and it showed by the results in the polls, less than 43% of the total number of votes were cast by people within the city limits. Let the ship keep pushing forward with these same old board members and I hope there are no people complaining now because they had a chance to change things but failed to get out and vote. Good luck Willard community, you have spoken by not voting these three in.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 10, 2017 14:21:48 GMT -5
Congrats to those who won. Having less than 30% voter turn out simply makes Rod the most popular turd in the fishbowl. But at least Rod goes to the meetings, that's more than can be said of the the majority of the educators and the parents of the kids. Minority shows up, majority complains. How true. The people that did the most complaining probably never made an attempt to get out and vote. They will still be the loudest in the room screaming for change, sad. Hope the members that won and the current members realize that people are begging for change, evident by the number of people that ran this year. I was sure Heather Slone was a lock based on all she does for that school. 30% is high, only Wards 3-4 hit 30%. Wards 1-2 were in the teens. Less than 800 within city limits voted, 1100 outside city limits voted. Goes to show you that if you say you want change and you don't get out and vote the people that don't have any skin in the game will outvote you a million times over because they always vote and will vote for those they know, name recognition. Marsha Danhoff getting back on was a shocker. That circle her and Rod run in is tight, and they are voters.
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Post by moneyball on Nov 10, 2017 14:07:56 GMT -5
Varsity BB10 am-12pm Willard/S. Central/Gibsonburg Haas Gym JV/Freshman BB10am-11am AT Greenwich SC Main Gym @ South Central MS BB 11am-1pm Willard/ Wynford/ Monroeville Main Gym @ Willard MS GB11am-1pm Willard/ Margaretta @ Margaretta Hope to see all you turds there to cheer on the Mighty Crimson Flashes! How do all the teams look this year? I know the freshman boys team is pretty talented and the eighth grade boys team has some talent. Are they keeping the freshman boys together or splitting them up?
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Post by moneyball on Oct 30, 2017 6:14:25 GMT -5
Need more Thunderbolts for kids closer to be fully grown to nearly dominate competition vs teams that make up a tiny % of schools in the state. Middle School contact that doesn't likely matter until 'til much later is clearly important, so keep the Thunderbolts and bar teachers from coaching because of grudges is the way to go. What does bar teachers from coaching because of grudges mean?
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Post by moneyball on Oct 13, 2017 13:36:56 GMT -5
Winning? AGAIN THE #1 thing that regains trust in ALL and proves the program is on track, is WINNING varsity games. Losing too many varsity games will get a coach fired, even if he has a great elementary program. Your foundation is your youth program, the farm system so to speak. The #1 thing that regains trust isn't winning right from the start. There is no one thing that regains trust but I will say hope that things are turning around is what gains trust. Winning is here today and gone tomorrow. The integrity of a program can last for years after a good coach is long gone but it has to be sound and disciplined and that starts with knowledge of the players coming up.
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Post by moneyball on Oct 13, 2017 13:04:01 GMT -5
I have no say in this situation. I sit in the stands and cheer the team on and support the coaches. I have my opinion and when my son ask me how he can get better I tell him to work on his skills, more playing time I say work harder, never take a play off. The point is there has to be one leader in any program and they define the direction of the entire program. I see the girls head coach is following suite and running the youth girls program just like the new coach is with the boys, good stuff. On here, you've had a lot to "say" negative about the previous coach and a lot to "say" positive about the current coach, before seeing him coach in his first varsity game. Your talking about 3rd through 6 graders. For his sake he needs to be concerned about the varsity team. If he can't win NOW, he'll never see any of those elementary kids on a varsity squad. You're going to be disappointed. There is no way a head coach can spend a lot of time with elementary school kids. He must spend 95% of his time with the varsity, for him to have a chance of turning it around. THE #1 way for a head coach to show he's a "leader" and "give direction" is to win at the varsity level. Winning, what is winning? Winning is regaining the trust of the players, parents and community with the direction of the program. I was not part of the decision to let the previous coach go. The school board members and AD did it, the program was struggling from what they stated in the paper (their words, not mine). I would not expect the head coach to micromanage the youth program but he has to know what is going on as these will be his players some day. I'm never disappointed in any sport, it is just a game and that is it, fill gaps of time with things for these kids to do. I don't care if they win or lose but what I do care about is how our kids are taught the game and to respect every aspect of the game. I like that the coach is making an effort.
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