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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 17, 2017 20:22:44 GMT -5
NU not accepted to CBC until 2019. Shelby is set to play an SBC football schedule (for those that still agree) in 2018 but will not be a conference member.
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 12, 2017 12:12:39 GMT -5
Perkins scrimmaged North Olmstead and Shelby last night. Shelby looks strong. North Olmstead was about even with Perkins. It's hard to tell too much from scrimmages, but the Pirates passed the ball pretty well, and ran the ball well AT TIMES against N.O.......not so much against the Shelby defense. Pretty sure it was vs Olmsted Falls. Big difference. Strohl is at North Olmsted but Olmsted Falls is coached by Norwalk Alum Tom DeLuca and coming off a regional final appearance.
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Post by kingmartinez on Aug 9, 2017 15:52:13 GMT -5
What's the latest on North Union's move to the CBC. When are they joining for football? Appears to be holding up Shelby's move to the MOAC.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 26, 2017 21:43:54 GMT -5
Would it be irony if a school like Seneca East sniffed around to rejoin some old MAL pals in the River Division? Could get interesting...
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 26, 2017 15:38:44 GMT -5
Vermilion can definitely hold their own in the Lake for most non-football sports. Boys basketball and baseball for sure.
I do not think the Lake will remain at six while the other two are at eight. I believe Vermilion's only hope of staying out of the Lake for non-football sports is if PC is the school to move up. They are pretty close in enrollment numbers. PC is bigger now but Vermilion was bigger last count.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 26, 2017 9:20:53 GMT -5
I think it's likely Hopewell and Shelby swap happens in the fall of 2019. Shelby's hang up is North Union's new league.
As for the breakdown in other sports, there will need to be some considerations made. My initial guess would be 7-7-8. Vermilion in Lake, Willard and Margaretta in the Bay.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 25, 2017 21:08:08 GMT -5
Correct. Willard moves to the Bay Division. 6-6-8 will be the breakdown once Gibsonburg, Danbury and Hopewell arrive.
I'm not saying Fremont will never be admitted but I can assure you they will not get the support they need any time soon.
Don't sleep on Woodmore...
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 25, 2017 18:24:46 GMT -5
talking to a bellevue fan today about the football season. Bellevue AD apparently is crying the blues because the Middle Division of the SBC wont schedule them. Who do they want to play from the middle? my guess is Huron? they already scrimmage oak harbor and port clinton. Huron and Perkins play week one week two huron and sandusky play huron im told is locked in week 3 with streetsboro ? for this upcoming year bellevue is going with west holmes the 4th week bellevue has shelby the final week bellevue has start huron has margaretta Edison is not going to play bellevue and i'm sure they wouldve been very upfront about it from the beginning. vermilion? why would bellevue want to play them? So i said, why not let fremont ross in? He says there too big. I said but you're asking smaller teams to do the same thing you refuse to do. and why do we have 3 divisions if we want to play each other in every game? I told the guy to tell your AD to shut the hell up. First - Fremont was unanimously voted against joining the SBC. Secondly, revisit those numbers to put this in perspective. Competitive Balance Numbers for Fall 2017 Fremont - 461 - DII Bellevue - 267 DIV Shelby - 254 DIV Port Clinton - 253 DIV Vermilion - 234 - DIV Edison - 208 DV Huron - 207 DV Oak Harbor - 197 DV You do not need a calculator to see what's glaring about your point-of-view.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 21, 2017 22:24:38 GMT -5
Once he believes his career is resuscitatedHe went 1-9 last year Resuscitate in this case as meaning being a head coach in Ohio. He had go away, become a coordinator before returning to Ohio at one of the few places that would hire him. His record was never in question. He is resuscitating himself from the other baggage. Not sure record matters this stint, especially if anyone is familiar with Willard.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 21, 2017 6:36:44 GMT -5
He is from Ada, correct? #2 - did someone really think he'd stay at Willard any longer than he has to? Once he believes his career is resuscitated, I'm sure most think he's gonzo.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 19, 2017 14:12:37 GMT -5
In the past, with Fairbanks and Upper Sandusky, the MOAC allowed them to leave right away for all sports except for football. They were forced to hang around in football for one season because of the whole scheduling process in that sport. I would assume that would be the situation here as well. The scheduling process is most definitely the issue at play. There are a lot of schools involved. Shelby has their 2019 football schedule set. They would have to ask schools in weeks 4 and 5 out of those contracts. In addition, they would have to go through the process for withdrawal of the SBC. None of that has occurred yet. If it carries over into the school year, it's likely it will not be until 2019-20. That's not to mention North Union - I was not aware when they are leaving. It was not mentioned in their board minutes. That's the first step.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 19, 2017 8:24:51 GMT -5
Shelby has accepted the MOAC invitation from the NU departure. The big question right now is when - 2018-19 or 2019-20.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 17, 2017 15:33:36 GMT -5
And even more to the topic, on another thread it was mentioned that Hopewell-Loudon is on board to join this new SBC. Anyone know anything more about that possibility? (I tried searching for any news of this and came up empty, though this search is what lead me to find that big article I just posted above) HL is in the early stages of the process. I'd expect some clarity in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 13, 2017 14:47:57 GMT -5
Who will take shelby's spot in sbc if those goes through? If Shelby leaves the year Danbury & Gibby come in, then 6-6-7 makes the most sense with Willard bumping up. If Shelby leaves the year before and nobody else comes in, a 2-division arrangement of 8-9 or 9-8 makes more sense to me. Time to invite Genoa & Woodmore... Hopewell is already in line as well. I'm guessing this is all for 2018-19. Shelby leaving certainly helps the Bay division's pitch to those mid-size schools like Genoa.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 8, 2017 20:16:57 GMT -5
Always love how people complain about threads going off topic but if they if you take out the "off topic" posts the thread would be dead and nothing being posted. Rather than complain about active discussion, be active and keep a post moving on the topic and it will not get off topic. OR at least not far off and will always have on topic discussions. With NU looking to leave the MOAC.(which I think has been in the talks for years) Does this create a slow crumble effect? River Valley has been in a few hallway conversations for options.(nothing serious) Galion has been looking to reconnect and make some new contracts with more local events in all sports.(nothing serious) Harding loves their position but they are part of the reason NU is looking elsewhere and some of the coaches from a new member would also like to see Harding out. Also a lot of talk about the possibility of Shelby making a move in the next year or so. With that, nothing could happen or a whole lot could happen. I do not know about the long-term of the conference but I believe Shelby replacing NU strengthens the league more than it does not.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jul 5, 2017 21:23:52 GMT -5
Mark my words...The SBC in its present form will last five years, tops. Parts may move but overall it's more stable than it appears, especially with the Lake schools. I feel confident that group will be together long-term. What's your five year prediction, Scott?
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 29, 2017 20:28:32 GMT -5
Assuming that's correct, is someone else joining the MOAC as well? It's already eight-team conference. And to be quite frank, the MOAC doesn't seem any more stable than the SBC. Joining Ontario, Clear Fork and Galion seems appealing, but trips to Marion, Union and Delaware counties don't seem as appealing. One could argue it's almost a lateral move... There is only one MOAC school in Delaware country. For Shelby the average travel time to MOAC schools is 46 minutes. The average travel time to Bay Division schools is 67 minutes. There are no Shelby "rivals" in the Bay Division. The MOAC offers 2 former NOL schools, an adjoining school district and a school they have played many times in basketball and football over the years. Obviously the MOAC would be much more "appealing" than the Bay Division. Another "unappealing" aspect of the SBC for Shelby is they MUST play a different set of schools in basketball than they MUST play in football. It would only be a matter of a short time before Shelby would be in the Lake Division which offsets the issues you mention and it also gives them back three long-standing rivalries. We shall see. Always expect the unexpected.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 29, 2017 11:31:50 GMT -5
Shelby looks to be going to the MOAC from all indications. Hopewell will be the next consideration for the SBC. Assuming both moves happen, Willard will be in the Bay and the alignment will be 6-6-8 for 2018-19. If Shelby stays for two years it is likely 6-7-8 for 2018-19. Assuming that's correct, is someone else joining the MOAC as well? It's already eight-team conference. And to be quite frank, the MOAC doesn't seem any more stable than the SBC. Joining Ontario, Clear Fork and Galion seems appealing, but trips to Marion, Union and Delaware counties don't seem as appealing. One could argue it's almost a lateral move... Apparently, North Union is following Jonathan Alder to another league. Agree with the lateral move point. Less travel but there is more instability in the MOAC. There may be moving pieces in the SBC but it's a stable group of schools. Sometimes you do not know what you are getting into until after you're in it and I believe that is what will happen if Shelby makes that move.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 29, 2017 10:28:20 GMT -5
Shelby looks to be going to the MOAC from all indications. Hopewell will be the next consideration for the SBC. Assuming both moves happen, Willard will be in the Bay and the alignment will be 6-6-8 for 2018-19. If Shelby stays for two years it is likely 6-7-8 for 2018-19.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 23, 2017 9:27:21 GMT -5
Willard knows they will be bumping to the Bay Division eventually and they are fine with it. They didn't want to go to the River Division initially but realize the benefits everyone else saw. The second school (Margaretta, Lakota or one not in the conference) may be the move that causes discontent.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 16, 2017 6:25:22 GMT -5
Invitation will be coming Shelby's way next week or the following week. Likely to be for 2018-19 school year. Shelby has openly said it's where they would prefer to be (lesser of three (MOAC vs SBC vs OCC) non-ideal situations). We will see if they actually go through with it when the opportunity presents itself. Always expect the unexpected. That may be the truest statement in saying Shelby may select a least non-ideal situation. I know from talking with some involved, the topics of tradition, location, attendance, competition and benefits have been discussed for all their sports. The travel in the SBC is a big deal but if they give it a year, I believe it will be much better than they perceive. Plus, as you mention they are sacrificing some long-standing traditions and familiarity (even with some the new SBC schools) to join a group that has some shaky and indecisive members. I realize they have sporadically played some members of the MOAC but there is a lot of uncertainty there. Not sure I'd be making that leap of faith without some serious vetting, which they will do.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 15, 2017 22:01:14 GMT -5
Invitation will be coming Shelby's way next week or the following week. Likely to be for 2018-19 school year. Shelby has openly said it's where they would prefer to be (lesser of three (MOAC vs SBC vs OCC) non-ideal situations). We will see if they actually go through with it when the opportunity presents itself. Always expect the unexpected.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 9, 2017 7:04:26 GMT -5
Or maybe it's because that's what his name is legally . Not everything is a conspiracy Oh. I see what he did there. He legally changed his name due to that incident.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 8, 2017 20:18:38 GMT -5
Margaretta hired Todd "Polk" as HS/MS health/PE teacher at their board meeting this morning. www.margaretta.k12.oh.us/board-agendas/687-2017-06-08-board-agendaCurious if the "Polk" was a cover to minimize the attention locally, especially since he's a hometown guy or if it was unintentional. I'm sure he was on the "attached" supplemental list was well but for some reason, that's not readily available on the site. May never be but not too transparent, especially in 2017.
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Post by kingmartinez on Jun 8, 2017 13:27:51 GMT -5
The post player that played at St. Paul in junior high and at WR last year as a freshman has supposedly transferred to Norwalk. I heard this from a very reliable source. That is correct. In addition, Griffith is off to a prep school to gain an extra year of high school eligibility so the 'Riders will be looking to fill two holes on the court.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 26, 2017 14:03:55 GMT -5
Brian Heck is the next Perkins girls basketball coach.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 25, 2017 7:03:56 GMT -5
Monroeville, Oak Harbor, Fremont...He's been applying for head job for about 10-12 years. Had Monroeville job offered to him so he talked to the assistants about their interest in joining his staff then their AD reneged.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 19, 2017 18:50:26 GMT -5
Huron has become "West Vermilion" very quickly, in more ways than one.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 13, 2017 17:59:22 GMT -5
Not really, and with what's going on in Cincy this issue will remain at the forefront. Is there legitimate smoke that "heads to roll"?
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Post by kingmartinez on May 13, 2017 4:41:43 GMT -5
Hofacker finally gets a chance after striking out at a half dozen or so head jobs over the years.
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