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Post by kingmartinez on Jan 3, 2018 21:11:23 GMT -5
Any more talk of the OCC looking east to include Dover and New Philly? Could be the next domino in the area.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 3, 2018 21:16:33 GMT -5
More likely they're rooting for the MOAC to implode in hopes of picking up a few scraps.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 5:34:16 GMT -5
Any more talk of the OCC looking east to include Dover and New Philly? Could be the next domino in the area. New Phil and Dover have been and still are being discussed. Two of the seven school are very much for the addition. Four are okay with it as in some ways they feel they have no other options at this time. One is against it. The two schools that are for adding Dover and New Phil are the ones that pushed Shelby away. To answer your question, the talk is still there but nothing is advancing. |
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 4, 2018 10:30:54 GMT -5
Why don't you just say Wooster and West Holmes? I say add Dover, NP and pursue Big Walnut. 10 teams, then Woo and WH can have Dover, NP and Ashland east, Madison, Sr, Lex, MtV, and BW west.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 11:15:03 GMT -5
Why don't you just say Wooster and West Holmes? I say add Dover, NP and pursue Big Walnut. 10 teams, then Woo and WH can have Dover, NP and Ashland east, Madison, Sr, Lex, MtV, and BW west. Because typing TWO is easier. M10, the Malabar / Mansfield glory days of a big schools is over. Mansfield is shrinking and could get smaller.  |
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 4, 2018 16:07:27 GMT -5
Are you saying we have shrinkage? It is cold! Looking at 3-8 numbers, probably leveling off, and definitely not going back to D 1! Ideally, add Dover, NP, and Louisville in east and Big Nut and Shelby in west. Easier for crossover games.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 19:01:38 GMT -5
Who would that be ideal for? Mansfield to New Philly is over 70 miles. I've seen Ty teams struggle to make it to Clear Fork on time for a game, how could they make a 5pm start on a week night?
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Post by kingmartinez on Jan 4, 2018 21:40:37 GMT -5
My thought would be Madison, Lex and possibly Senior would look north if New Philly and Dover join.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 22:29:57 GMT -5
My thought would be Madison, Lex and possibly Senior would look north if New Philly and Dover join. North? |
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Post by deathfromabove on Jan 5, 2018 2:24:53 GMT -5
Dude, I was wondering that myself. Who would want in the OCC from the north? Shelby=maybe but other than that I don't see anybody else up north here. Who do you think would join from the north. I think their best beat would be to look east and south of them.  |
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Post by kingmartinez on Jan 5, 2018 9:02:22 GMT -5
My thought would be Madison, Lex and possibly Senior would look north if New Philly and Dover join. North? SBC Lake. May sound like a stretch but there is a lot of familiarity there and there are not a lot of options for those schools otherwise. Take Lex - travel 75 miles to Dover and New Philly or 60 to Sandusky and Perkins? Not to mention the competition and size similarities of that set up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 9:39:55 GMT -5
There are talks about the OCC possibilities, probabilities involving the additions, mergers or break-offs in the future but I have not heard anything about ANY school having interest in the SBC. The new SBC is in its infancy and already has teams talking change. A large multi division league is not beneficial from what I have seen.
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 5, 2018 18:06:21 GMT -5
There was nothing better than a Jan/Feb road trip in a school bus to Dover, NP, or Coshocton! I had to suffer, so, so should the Tygers of today! There's nothing to the north except maybe Cloverleaf, Norwalk. Senior setting relationship with Perkins in football. Norwalk 2018 opener.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 12:13:03 GMT -5
I do not see the advantage to making your Tygers suffer has you had to. From what I have heard their is very little chance if any that Dover AND New Philly ever join the OCC with the current members.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 13:41:09 GMT -5
What is Dover and NP's interest level?
Wouldn't Dover and Philly be better off trying to make a league that would start with this
-Dover
-NP
-Wooster
-WH
-Louisville
-Ashland?
-Canton Central Catholic?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 13:41:51 GMT -5
There was nothing better than a Jan/Feb road trip in a school bus to Dover, NP, or Coshocton! I had to suffer, so, so should the Tygers of today! There's nothing to the north except maybe Cloverleaf, Norwalk. Senior setting relationship with Perkins in football. Norwalk 2018 opener. Wait, is Norwalk playing Senior in 18 in football? |
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Post by malabar10 on Jan 7, 2018 18:37:06 GMT -5
There was nothing better than a Jan/Feb road trip in a school bus to Dover, NP, or Coshocton! I had to suffer, so, so should the Tygers of today! There's nothing to the north except maybe Cloverleaf, Norwalk. Senior setting relationship with Perkins in football. Norwalk 2018 opener. Wait, is Norwalk playing Senior in 18 in football? Week 1 Norwalk A Week 2 Perkins A Week 3 Westerville North H Week 4 West Holmes A Week 5 Maple Hts H Week 6 Lexington H Week 7 Ashland A Week 8 Wooster H Week 9 Mt Vernon H Week 10 Madison A |
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Post by averagejoe on Jan 7, 2018 20:48:51 GMT -5
I do not see the advantage to making your Tygers suffer has you had to. From what I have heard their is very little chance if any that Dover AND New Philly ever join the OCC with the current members. I sure hope Sr is never in a conference with Dover. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 9:08:35 GMT -5
From what i have been told it does not look like it will ever happen.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 10, 2018 1:09:11 GMT -5
My thought would be Madison, Lex and possibly Senior would look north if New Philly and Dover join. Ontario was too far south for the SBC, those 3 aren't any further north. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 10, 2018 1:10:09 GMT -5
What is Dover and NP's interest level? Wouldn't Dover and Philly be better off trying to make a league that would start with this -Dover -NP -Wooster -WH -Louisville -Ashland? -Canton Central Catholic? Ashland isn't going anywhere without Madison, Senior and Lex. |
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Post by deathfromabove on Jan 10, 2018 14:24:23 GMT -5
What is Dover and NP's interest level? Wouldn't Dover and Philly be better off trying to make a league that would start with this -Dover -NP -Wooster -WH -Louisville -Ashland? -Canton Central Catholic? Ashland isn't going anywhere without Madison, Senior and Lex. I agree Willard, Ashland, Madison, Lex, along with Sr. are joined at the hip. Where one goes the others will follow.  |
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Post by galion on Jan 10, 2018 14:47:09 GMT -5
The OCC is in a very interesting position to be certain. The main problem is that when they decided to add Mt. Vernon the drastically limited their options for an 8th team in terms of size and location. The premise that somehow Ashland is joined an the hip with any Richland county schools is probably not accurate. Given their location(farther to the east and along I 71) they will have plenty of options to choose from. Dover and NP are likely a package deal. For them to come into the OCC would likely mean Lex moving elsewhere(perhaps the MOAC? Who knows?). One thing is certain, the OCC can't stay put at 7 teams indefinitely so something is going to have to happen soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 15:20:46 GMT -5
The OCC claims to be just fine with 7 teams for as long as it takes. Most feel the league is very competitive and regardless of the schools sizes the competition is acceptable. Ashland is not joined with anyone. They like the OCC and want it to grow but would have places to go if they wanted to simply because of their football. Mansfield, Madison and Lexington may be a little closer together in the fact that they may look for a home together but each would make their own choice if presented. Their hips are not connected if that is clearer.  Time will tell. There are a lot of behind the scenes talks, as always, and the idea of a league based more on a central location is gaining interest as ticket sales and attending support decline. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Jan 10, 2018 15:22:00 GMT -5
The biggest issue sounds like the schools can't agree on who the eighth team is.
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Post by galion on Jan 10, 2018 15:23:16 GMT -5
Outside of Shelby and Cloverleaf there really haven't been many inquiries.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 22:01:00 GMT -5
I've heard they have had 4 or 5 schools being tossed around the table but none of them excited 100% of the people in control.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 11, 2018 14:29:48 GMT -5
Even though they just joined the OCC, Mt Vernon is the least likely to stick around. It's been said they're looking at a new league to their east and south with some closer schools.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:03:06 GMT -5
The biggest issue sounds like the schools can't agree on who the eighth team is. The biggest issue would be getting to and staying at 8. They could be a league of 9 tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:04:42 GMT -5
Most of the 7 have had talks with schools from other leagues. West Holmes may be the one that truly has no where to go.
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