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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 29, 2018 8:29:03 GMT -5
The OCC is a much better fit for Madison than the SBC. It appears they were using it as leverage or in a panic that things may crumble with the possiblity Mount Vernon might be heading south. I doubt anyone was using anyone for anything as I don’t think there were any decisions made because Madison approached the SBC and there still have been no decisions made. The decision to accept Madison was made earlier this month by the SBC. They approved Madison's informal request to join (letter of interest). The ball is now in Madison's court to formally join (BOE approval). That hasn't happened because Madison is waiting to see how things turn out with a school who is interested in joining the OCC. I assume that's Buckeye. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 8:51:14 GMT -5
I doubt anyone was using anyone for anything as I don’t think there were any decisions made because Madison approached the SBC and there still have been no decisions made. The decision to accept Madison was made earlier this month by the SBC. They approved Madison's informal request to join (letter of interest). The ball is now in Madison's court to formally join (BOE approval). That hasn't happened because Madison is waiting to see how things turn out with a school who is interested in joining the OCC. I assume that's Buckeye. That is a sign of Madison looking to move forward with league options. Their contact with the SBC had no affect on the Buckeye visit. It had been in the planning for some time trying to line up a day when they could hit every school. Madison may be waiting before they make a move but the SBC was not "used" to force action from Medina Buckeye or the OCC. IMO, Buckeye is not the answer to the OCC staying together but may help in the forcing of its change. Wooster and West Holmes are not currently happy and Mt Vernon has growing concerns of travel in adding an 8th team. Dover and New Philly would jump to the OCC tomorrow if approved but that will never happen if it makes the league 9 schools. Wooster and WH want Dover and NP and if Buckeye joins could make the start of a new league with the possibility of Ashland going east makes 6. Mansfield will go anywhere to stay in a league so that could give them 7. |
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Mar 29, 2018 11:33:22 GMT -5
So that leaves Lexington. They may be in no man's land. The MOAC doesn't sound like they want them. Plus Lex may not be happy for various reasons that have been discussed here already. I think though if the OCC does fall the SBC will be the answer imho. Lex might be an unwilling player but will accept it,if letting in New Philly and Dover is the only answer to keep the OCC afloat. If Medina Buckeye is invited and accepts could that entice Cloverleaf and or Medina Highland to join the mix?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 17:59:25 GMT -5
If Medina Buckeye joins that’s it, there will be no more talk of adding teams. New Phil and Dover are done and a league of 8 will be set.
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 30, 2018 20:46:21 GMT -5
If Medina Buckeye joins that’s it, there will be no more talk of adding teams. New Phil and Dover are done and a league of 8 will be set. Until....... Here are my two guesses: Until...Mount Vernon? Or does Buckeye stabilize things for them? Until...Wooster/West Holmes look to pair with Dover/New Philly? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 22:33:03 GMT -5
West Holmes has no options at this time. Their location and size have them on an island.
Wooster is also in a better spot if Buckeye join. They are a larger school that cannot consistently compete at a high level with schools their own size in the ticket sale sports.
Mount Vernon will probably continue to listen to possible options but For now have none that provide them a competitive 8 team league. Which is one of their top desires.
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Post by kingmartinez on Mar 31, 2018 10:41:20 GMT -5
Any idea of Buckeye's timetable on a decision? I would suspect the OCC isn't their only option.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 12:28:38 GMT -5
I have not heard a timetable. Also not heard they have looked any where else.
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Post by deathfromabove on Apr 3, 2018 11:03:33 GMT -5
Any idea of Buckeye's timetable on a decision? I would suspect the OCC isn't their only option. King, Have you heard of any other conference that Buckeye has been looking at besides the OCC? |
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Post by kingmartinez on Apr 3, 2018 19:47:45 GMT -5
Any idea of Buckeye's timetable on a decision? I would suspect the OCC isn't their only option. King, Have you heard of any other conference that Buckeye has been looking at besides the OCC? No I haven't. I just assumed with the others (Fairview, Lutheran West, Brooklyn) who were left out of the Lorain County Conference that they may have other options. Did read something on Yappi about the Suburban League American Division and Great Lakes Conference but not sure it's legitimate or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2018 21:32:10 GMT -5
Medina Buckeye has visited every OCC school and the schools visited them. They are an option that every current OCC school is on board with as the 8th member. This does not mean it is final, only that there are no obstacles at this time.
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Post by deathfromabove on Apr 5, 2018 17:46:32 GMT -5
King, Have you heard of any other conference that Buckeye has been looking at besides the OCC? No I haven't. I just assumed with the others (Fairview, Lutheran West, Brooklyn) who were left out of the Lorain County Conference that they may have other options. Did read something on Yappi about the Suburban League American Division and Great Lakes Conference but not sure it's legitimate or not. King, Thanks, I didn't know if they maybe had some other offers or not with all the chaos going on with schools jumping from one conference to another these days. Is Woodmore still going to the TAAC or are they going to stay in the NBC. I notice Stryker High School is going to play in the TAAC (for football only) starting this year. That will give 4 teams from Williams Co. playing in the TAAC for football only. Changes to the left of us and changes to the right and as the old song also said we're stuck here in the middle. Thanks again King.  |
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Post by kingmartinez on Apr 5, 2018 19:07:41 GMT -5
Haven't heard anything on Woodmore to the TAAC. Those whispers surfaced two months ago but nothing since.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 10:18:44 GMT -5
OCC is moving forward with Medina Buckeye. No obstacles yet.
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Post by kingmartinez on Apr 16, 2018 15:21:12 GMT -5
OCC is moving forward with Medina Buckeye. No obstacles yet. Thanks for the update. Do you (or they) anticipate any obstacles? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 16:26:02 GMT -5
Can’t see West Holmes and Mount Vernon sticking around much longer
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 16:50:34 GMT -5
OCC is moving forward with Medina Buckeye. No obstacles yet. Thanks for the update. Do you (or they) anticipate any obstacles? I have not heard of anything being mentioned other than the chance that someone would change their mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 16:57:24 GMT -5
Can’t see West Holmes and Mount Vernon sticking around much longer West Holmes has no options according to them. They would like to see a Dover and New Philly addition but it does not make the others happy to go from a league of 7 to 9. I am not saying it is being discussed but the only way I see them leave is if West Holmes and Wooster break off and get with Dover and New Philly. Now this would create an option for Ashland and Mansfield to join them. This would leave Madison, Lexington and Mt Vernon open. Lexington and Madison could look at the SBC and Mt Vernon back to a central district league. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 16, 2018 23:41:07 GMT -5
Add Buckeye as #8, then to satisfy West Holmes add Dover and New Philly as 9 and 10.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 13:37:58 GMT -5
OCC is moving forward with Medina Buckeye. No obstacles yet. Thanks for the update. Do you (or they) anticipate any obstacles? Obstacle. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Apr 17, 2018 17:29:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the update. Do you (or they) anticipate any obstacles? Obstacle.  What happened? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 7:59:08 GMT -5
What happened? Medina's interest have declined after getting feedback from coaches. |
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Post by unc4life on Apr 23, 2018 8:41:24 GMT -5
What happened? Medina's interest have declined after getting feedback from coaches. Don't you think that is something you talk to your coaches about first? Seems weird to go through all of that and then ask your coaches. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 8:50:50 GMT -5
When something becomes a reality different emotions/reactions occur than when something is just an idea
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 9:04:44 GMT -5
Medina's interest have declined after getting feedback from coaches. Don't you think that is something you talk to your coaches about first? Seems weird to go through all of that and then ask your coaches. I would agree with you. One scenario is that they spoke with some coaches about the option prior to this and as it became serious they actually asked every coach in the system for their thoughts. |
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Post by galion on Apr 23, 2018 11:44:44 GMT -5
They probably hear the same SBC rumors that we do and are a bit apprehensive in pulling the trigger. Also, with so many schools in their vicinity an hour and a half bus ride to Mt. Vernon is probably a tough sell.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 12:16:24 GMT -5
They probably hear the same SBC rumors that we do and are a bit apprehensive in pulling the trigger. Also, with so many schools in their vicinity an hour and a half bus ride to Mt. Vernon is probably a tough sell. I would have thought the same thing from the start. |
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Apr 23, 2018 13:16:43 GMT -5
Don't you think that is something you talk to your coaches about first? Seems weird to go through all of that and then ask your coaches. I would agree with you. One scenario is that they spoke with some coaches about the option prior to this and as it became serious they actually asked every coach in the system for their thoughts. What? The OCC coaches told Buckeye coaches they were more interested in the SBC than staying in the OCC? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 11:24:59 GMT -5
When something becomes a reality different emotions/reactions occur than when something is just an idea Very true. As I suggested before the Median Buckeye admins had only spoken to a couple coaches while visiting the OCC schools and inviting them to visit them. Once this move became a possible reality MB asked for input from a much bigger volume of those involved. The response was overwhelmingly against the change. The biggest factors were the travel, as they have been in a league with West Holmes in the past, and the concern of being able to compete regularly in all sports. |
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Post by kingmartinez on Apr 24, 2018 17:12:19 GMT -5
Interesting. Any idea what's next?
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What happened?
