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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 21:44:07 GMT -5
Interesting. Any idea what's next? Only the same that have been said before. Dover, New Philly are still open. Louisville has broken into the topic which would make a 10 team league and 2 smaller divisions of 5 with crossover games set.
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Post by jafo on Apr 28, 2018 21:07:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 6:37:57 GMT -5
The remaining schools should be announcing something soon as it usually takes a 2 year process to change leagues.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 2, 2018 19:23:43 GMT -5
Madison officially declined the SBC invitation to join despite them being the one's who first applied. Buckeye happening to OCC?
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Post by galion on May 2, 2018 20:08:30 GMT -5
Or Madison realizes that the SBC makes zero sense from a travel perspective.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 21:36:35 GMT -5
Madison officially declined the SBC invitation to join despite them being the one's who first applied. Buckeye happening to OCC? I was told Buckeye is not happening but Madison is no longer afraid of being left alone.
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Post by crimsonblooded on May 5, 2018 16:46:35 GMT -5
The SBC will invite Ashland and Lexington then. Possible Mansfield Senior. Madison, you are off the table!
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Post by jafo on May 5, 2018 21:23:34 GMT -5
The SBC will invite Ashland and Lexington then. Possible Mansfield Senior. Madison, you are off the table! If the SBC invites Ashland it seems like they are getting dangerously close to schools the size of Ross.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 22:24:39 GMT -5
The SBC will invite Ashland and Lexington then. Possible Mansfield Senior. Madison, you are off the table! That would be a waste of paper.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 5, 2018 22:40:58 GMT -5
The SBC will invite Ashland and Lexington then. Possible Mansfield Senior. Madison, you are off the table! Will guarantee you that isn't happening - from the SBC or vice versa. Much more likely that Fremont would be accepted before these two. SBC will be "as is" until more River teams are added or the unthinkable happens (Genoa, Eastwood, Elmwood, etc. join in middle).
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 4:07:07 GMT -5
Understanding sarcasm needs to be a requirement on this forum
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 7:45:43 GMT -5
With the OCC at 7 schools and talks heating up about Wooster branching off and the chance for West Holmes to join them, that would leave 5 current members looking for options. The MOAC is looking like it is going to be at 7 once BV leaves, since Highland voted not to join. How long before talks of a 12 team league starts with a big/small school division.
Mt Vernon Ashland Harding Madison Mansfield Lexington
Ontario Shelby River Valley Clear Fork Galion PLeasant
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 8:07:13 GMT -5
That’s pretty decent.
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Post by kingmartinez on May 7, 2018 15:30:28 GMT -5
With the OCC at 7 schools and talks heating up about Wooster branching off and the chance for West Holmes to join them, that would leave 5 current members looking for options. The MOAC is looking like it is going to be at 7 once BV leaves, since Highland voted not to join. How long before talks of a 12 team league starts with a big/small school division. Mt Vernon Ashland Harding Madison Mansfield Lexington Ontario Shelby River Valley Clear Fork Galion PLeasant I think this could work. Would have to do crossovers and we know how hard that has been to accomplish in SBC. Not many schools believe in a multi division format but I am not sure they'd find anything more attractive than this set up. May be closest thing to Richland County League that they've talked about. Would be interested in Mount Vernon's current and long-term interest. Thought they were looking south (Capital Conference or another league).
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 7, 2018 19:24:50 GMT -5
Two six team Divisions with 2 required(reason for 2 divisions) cross over games is a MUCH quicker death sentence than a 7 school league. When there is that much of a discrepancy between Divisions. Let the OCC die and take in the highest bidder of the five that are left. IF there's that big a desperation for an 8 school league. Remember, only ONE of the 20+ sports has AN issue in a 7 school league.
How long do you think Mt.Vernon would last in that league?
Why will the OCC implode? Wooster and West Holmes are tired of being in a league with 4 schools in the Mansfield area.
With those 2 Divisions, how long will it take the 3 Marion County schools to get tired of being in a league with 7 schools in the Mansfield area? As it is now, there are only 3 schools from the Mansfield area in the MOAC.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 21:11:04 GMT -5
With the OCC at 7 schools and talks heating up about Wooster branching off and the chance for West Holmes to join them, that would leave 5 current members looking for options. The MOAC is looking like it is going to be at 7 once BV leaves, since Highland voted not to join. How long before talks of a 12 team league starts with a big/small school division. Mt Vernon Ashland Harding Madison Mansfield Lexington Ontario Shelby River Valley Clear Fork Galion Pleasant I think this could work. Would have to do crossovers and we know how hard that has been to accomplish in SBC. Not many schools believe in a multi division format but I am not sure they'd find anything more attractive than this set up. May be closest thing to Richland County League that they've talked about. Would be interested in Mount Vernon's current and long-term interest. Thought they were looking south (Capital Conference or another league). It could be the best option with 2 leagues being at 7 ans looking to have that 8th league game for football. It still allows a couple bigger schools to think they are small and provides limited travel so fans will be more interested in going to away games. Also keeps a few rivalries alive and could start a few with schools that have good traditions in sports. With all that being said this is a long shot.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 8, 2018 11:13:01 GMT -5
ALL OCC schools will be able to think they are small by playing schools that are in 2 Divisions lower than they are, in cross over games. Limited travel for Harding? No limited travel in cross over games for the Marion County schools unless they always play each other.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 7:43:00 GMT -5
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Post by Big Lex Fan on May 9, 2018 10:32:58 GMT -5
I like it. It's not perfect. Bu I have suggested similar suggestions in the past. Of course WF shoots them down as always. Fact is just about every school in this scenario has scheduled each other in most sports in the past. And the recent past as well. Its a good thing that Willard does not have a vote. I'm not on a one on one with any of the administrators of the mentioned schools. But as anyone been able to forward this idea to them officially. Don't really suspect they are on this sight to get ideas for future planning.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:45:46 GMT -5
WF shoots everything down that challenges his school. He values league titles much more than most do and the illusion of success.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 14:21:04 GMT -5
Hey if Ontario is chicken let them go independent and ask Loudonville to join
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 9, 2018 14:38:56 GMT -5
The Bighose a dudette are the chickens, they are clueless about what I said because they are afraid to read all posts.
Big Lex Fan, I posted another viewpoint with some facts and data. In hopes of challenging thought processes and facilitating a debate. What did I get? Ignorant put downs, which proves all incapable of an intelligent discussion. All dudette did was suggest a new league out of desperation, with no data.
All three of you are completely without knowledge when it comes to Ontario and their leagues. When they joined the NCC they were a DIII school as were all other members except for Buckeye Central. How can Ontario be chicken if they joined the Big Bad NOL when they were the next to smallest school? When they joined the MOAC they were a middle sized school. At each stop they could have chosen to be an independent.
Why does Shelby choose to join the MOAC instead of one of soon to be at least three openings in the OCC?
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Post by Willard Fillmore on May 9, 2018 14:50:44 GMT -5
Hey if Ontario is chicken let them go independent and ask Loudonville to join You're so ignorant that you don't realized the MOAC could ask Loudonville to join to have ab 8 school league??
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Post by ohioraised on May 9, 2018 16:34:01 GMT -5
With the OCC at 7 schools and talks heating up about Wooster branching off and the chance for West Holmes to join them, that would leave 5 current members looking for options. The MOAC is looking like it is going to be at 7 once BV leaves, since Highland voted not to join. How long before talks of a 12 team league starts with a big/small school division. Mt Vernon Ashland Harding Madison Mansfield Lexington Ontario Shelby River Valley Clear Fork Galion PLeasant I would support this. That would be good for us in all sports.
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Post by ohioraised on May 9, 2018 16:39:35 GMT -5
Willard- because someone does not want to engage with you does not make them ignorant and it does not make them chickens. Why do you call the NOL big and bad? When the NCC kicked you out what other option did Ontario have other than the NOL? I do know that Shelby chose the OCC over the MOAC but they could not get the votes to become a member so they settled for the MOAC, which I am happy to have them.
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Post by jafo on May 9, 2018 22:43:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 6:57:33 GMT -5
This is good for the OCC. IMO
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Post by awebgsu on May 10, 2018 7:37:13 GMT -5
As a local league stat tracker, this makes me happy.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 7:50:58 GMT -5
If the OCC and MOAC stay at 7 schools each they could make a deal that they play each other in their open dates in weeks 4-10.
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Or something along those lines. Mount Vernon and Wooster really throw a wrench in it. Sorry if any of you find this to be an ignorant idea
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 9:18:33 GMT -5
There are no ignorant ideas.
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