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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 15:25:39 GMT -5
Caught me. Your wrong about this. I have the name of the parent from my Upper Friend and if you are as big a CC guy as you portray on here, you will know this person - but I won't put the name out there. This parent got chest-to-chest with the McCreary kid and wouldn't let him get to lockerroom until coaches & players had to intervene. And I believe my friend as we were in the church when he told me... not sure he would lie to me in a house of God. Better check with him again. I saw none of this and i stayed and watched every single thing from a very good vantage point till there were a couple dozen people left in gym. So tell us what every other kid did as he was leaving the floor. I find it amazing that you could have seen everything that happened with every player, coach and fan in the US gym.
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Post by fbfan on Dec 9, 2018 15:37:10 GMT -5
Fbfan.. yes I am biased in that as a Wynford fan I am not a fan of Crawford or their coach. Purefan... like you I am only posting what I know to be true. It's OK to be a biased fan and supporter. That's different from posting disrespectful, second hand accusations, that you can't prove even if you believe them to be true. It greatly diminishes your credibility.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 15:44:02 GMT -5
Better check with him again. I saw none of this and i stayed and watched every single thing from a very good vantage point till there were a couple dozen people left in gym. So tell us what every other kid did as he was leaving the floor. I find it amazing that you could have seen everything that happened with every player, coach and fan in the US gym. Read again dude. Never claimed to have watched every single player. Dont twist things around to try and make a point
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 15:50:32 GMT -5
So tell us what every other kid did as he was leaving the floor. I find it amazing that you could have seen everything that happened with every player, coach and fan in the US gym. Read again dude. Never claimed to have watched every single player. Dont twist things around to try and make a point Exactly, I did make my point. So it could have happened. I was at a CC home loss last season and the crowd became very involved vocally with the opposing team. I don't like to hear that a coach encourages his team not to shake hands for any reason. If there truly was an issue for concern, as the AD of the opponent he could have handled it in a better way. We are not talking about an unmanageable number of people.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 15:51:19 GMT -5
Have to agree with you about Rowlinson. His kid is pretty good as a Soph at Western. Don’t agree about wanting Sheldon. Only a few over here would want him and those are his buddies who are administrators. He isn’t the answer to our lack of recent success in basketball. Poor Hiring decisions, lack of development at the elementary & junior high levels, competing with a very successful football program, and lack of recent talent are some of the main reasons for our poor records in basketball. Sheldon at Crawford has been successful due to having talent and playing in a fairly weak league and district. Not sure he would be Wynford’s Savior as you are suggesting. Show me where i suggested where sheldon would be wynfords savior? And you can add developing a great jr high program and competing with a successful football program to why he is successful, as well as good hiring decisions by him for all the other coaching postions. So i guess i checked 3 of the 4 off the list
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 15:54:12 GMT -5
Fbfan.. yes I am biased in that as a Wynford fan I am not a fan of Crawford or their coach. Purefan... like you I am only posting what I know to be true. It's OK to be a biased fan and supporter. That's different from posting disrespectful, second hand accusations, that you can't prove even if you believe them to be true. It greatly diminishes your credibility. Fbfan, I am posting facts that I feel very certain are true. And if this forum were a “court of law” I feel confident that I could bring forward witnesses and proof what I have posted in the past and currently. I have never and will never drink the Sheldon and his mafia of coaches cool-aid like most in this area have drank.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 15:58:04 GMT -5
Read again dude. Never claimed to have watched every single player. Dont twist things around to try and make a point Exactly, I did make my point. So it could have happened. I was at a CC home loss last season and the crowd became very involved vocally with the opposing team. I don't like to hear that a coach encourages his team not to shake hands for any reason. If there truly was an issue for concern, as the AD of the opponent he could have handled it in a better way. We are not talking about an unmanageable number of people. Are you off your game today? Everyone knows any and all possible situations that could of happened after the game would have more than likely involved the cc recruit and his family and those immediatly surrounding him or them. Do i need to get my crayon out and draw it out for you?
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 16:03:09 GMT -5
Have to agree with you about Rowlinson. His kid is pretty good as a Soph at Western. Don’t agree about wanting Sheldon. Only a few over here would want him and those are his buddies who are administrators. He isn’t the answer to our lack of recent success in basketball. Poor Hiring decisions, lack of development at the elementary & junior high levels, competing with a very successful football program, and lack of recent talent are some of the main reasons for our poor records in basketball. Sheldon at Crawford has been successful due to having talent and playing in a fairly weak league and district. Not sure he would be Wynford’s Savior as you are suggesting. Show me where i suggested where sheldon would be wynfords savior? And you can add developing a great jr high program and competing with a successful football program to why he is successful, as well as good hiring decisions by him for all the other coaching postions. So i guess i checked 3 of the 4 off the list The Junior High Program has only been successful because of the talent they have been fortunate to have because of the move-ins and transfers. Many of the home-grown kids who played in junior high ended up not playing basketball in high school because of how Sheldon dissed them for the move-ins & transfers. Most of the home-grown kids opted for football and track or play basketball thru the JV team and quit as Seniors. With out the move-Ins and the couple transfers the past 8 years Crawford success would have been voided and they would have been a very average program.
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Post by bigox on Dec 9, 2018 16:08:58 GMT -5
🍿🍿🍿🙄🙄🙄 Careful boys we keep up this silly banter and we will balloon out of control like the Willard folk have on the SBC page. HA!
For what it's worth my guess is usramfan is going to have had the best seat in the house for any of the alleged drama that did or did not happen. Unless of course purefan you are one of those "yellow hats" well then you are ALWAYS going to pine for the best seat in the house. 😎😎😎
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 16:09:43 GMT -5
Exactly, I did make my point. So it could have happened. I was at a CC home loss last season and the crowd became very involved vocally with the opposing team. I don't like to hear that a coach encourages his team not to shake hands for any reason. If there truly was an issue for concern, as the AD of the opponent he could have handled it in a better way. We are not talking about an unmanageable number of people. Are you off your game today? Everyone knows any and all possible situations that could of happened after the game would have more than likely involved the cc recruit and his family and those immediatly surrounding him or them. Do i need to get my crayon out and draw it out for you? Yes, get that crayon out and draw the picture of the creepy CC people taking pictures of the UPPER player and his parent. Since you were at both games in a good vantage point you must have seen them.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 16:15:14 GMT -5
Exactly, I did make my point. So it could have happened. I was at a CC home loss last season and the crowd became very involved vocally with the opposing team. I don't like to hear that a coach encourages his team not to shake hands for any reason. If there truly was an issue for concern, as the AD of the opponent he could have handled it in a better way. We are not talking about an unmanageable number of people. Are you off your game today? Everyone knows any and all possible situations that could of happened after the game would have more than likely involved the cc recruit and his family and those immediatly surrounding him or them. Do i need to get my crayon out and draw it out for you? From all the information that I have heard from very reliable sources their were several Crawford parents who purposely tried to instigate & incite reaction & retalition by the McCreary kids family. The picture taking by the parents of a Crawford player (who are coaches themselves) was just one of the several orchestrated and purposeful ways of provoking a reaction by the kids family prior, during and after the game. Many of the Upper parents & coaches were witnesses to these childish petty attempts. These are facts!
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 16:18:45 GMT -5
Show me where i suggested where sheldon would be wynfords savior? And you can add developing a great jr high program and competing with a successful football program to why he is successful, as well as good hiring decisions by him for all the other coaching postions. So i guess i checked 3 of the 4 off the list The Junior High Program has only been successful because of the talent they have been fortunate to have because of the move-ins and transfers. Many of the home-grown kids who played in junior high ended up not playing basketball in high school because of how Sheldon dissed them for the move-ins & transfers. Most of the home-grown kids opted for football and track or play basketball thru the JV team and quit as Seniors. With out the move-Ins and the couple transfers the past 8 years Crawford success would have been voided and they would have been a very average program. This is laughable. Success breeds success. If you are talented and good enough to contribute you stick it out and play. Many kids quit because they aren’t ok with sitting the pines and kids are good at figuring out if they will get playing time or not. We have yet to have any move in’s or transfers in of high school players for basketball. The few kids you speak of moved in in 7th or 8th grade. One of those came from a christian school. Who knows why they ultimately chose cc. Maybe it was academics? Maybe parents moved? Maybe they did it for hoops alone and to play for sheldon? Could be for a lot of different reasons. Whether u are homegrown or a move in you still have the same oppurtunity to earn a spot.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 16:29:31 GMT -5
The kid wasn’t a recruit. From all the information (which was discussed at length on another thread) the kid himself did not want to change schools nor was he recruited. The parents made this decision for him. The kid had no choice.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 16:34:23 GMT -5
The kid wasn’t a recruit. From all the information (which was discussed at length on another thread) the kid himself did not want to change schools nor was he recruited. The parents made this decision for him. The kid had no choice. You don’t recruit the kid in high school. You recruit and convince the parents. Don’t be foolish
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 16:36:45 GMT -5
Are you off your game today? Everyone knows any and all possible situations that could of happened after the game would have more than likely involved the cc recruit and his family and those immediatly surrounding him or them. Do i need to get my crayon out and draw it out for you? From all the information that I have heard from very reliable sources their were several Crawford parents who purposely tried to instigate & incite reaction & retalition by the McCreary kids family. The picture taking by the parents of a Crawford player (who are coaches themselves) was just one of the several orchestrated and purposeful ways of provoking a reaction by the kids family prior, during and after the game. Many of the Upper parents & coaches were witnesses to these childish petty attempts. These are facts! Where is eric trump when we need him? We must have a full investigation immediatly! Stop spreading hearsay!! If i must i will poke wholes in your STORY!
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 16:46:07 GMT -5
Colonel Crawford Central Catholic CCCC must recruit the parents in Junior High. But in purefan’s world that isn’t recruiting.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 16:51:55 GMT -5
Rumors are that the Stone kid from Carey is moving to Upper for Senior season. They must be recruiting his parents as you say they did the Crawford kids. Upper must be using Willard’s old “How to Recruit Manual”.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 17:04:47 GMT -5
Purefan, What flavor cool-aid is Sheldon serving this season?
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Post by bigox on Dec 9, 2018 17:14:54 GMT -5
Rumors are that the Stone kid from Carey is moving to Upper for Senior season. They must be recruiting his parents as you say they did the Crawford kids. Upper must be using Willard’s old “How to Recruit Manual”. He may have no choice but to find a different school to play for if things keep happening like they do. Since when do high school kids sub themselves out of a game and not listen to their coaches. Kids these days are so entitled these days. Dont get me wrong kid is a boatload of talent. But I cant understand the logic. And apparently neither does his coach.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 17:18:13 GMT -5
Purefan, What flavor cool-aid is Sheldon serving this season? Royallblue,just for you. 😂
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 17:18:58 GMT -5
Colonel Crawford Central Catholic CCCC must recruit the parents in Junior High. But in purefan’s world that isn’t recruiting. You are getting desperate.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 17:22:44 GMT -5
Rumors are that the Stone kid from Carey is moving to Upper for Senior season. They must be recruiting his parents as you say they did the Crawford kids. Upper must be using Willard’s old “How to Recruit Manual”. This is no secret. Once mcreary dad accepted upper offer it was for gone conclusuion stone be there next year to replace holly in the post. Dad been trying to get stone on his son’s aau team for a couple years as well as vent. I could go into more detail but i won’t. Keep ya all guessing
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Post by galion on Dec 9, 2018 19:08:43 GMT -5
Wow. I don't get it Upper. Why do you keep poking the bear? You know what happens when he gets mad at somebody. But for a fortuitous change of conference by Riverdale you'd still be in the MOAC now. If you move right now there's a spot in the MOAC for you. Looks like it will be interesting to see if the KMAC tires of Highland before Sheldon/ the N10 tires of you. If you wait too long, who knows, maybe the SBC will have a spot for you somewhere.
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 19:51:20 GMT -5
I have heard some wild numbers but can anyone accurately say how many of the CC kids are open enrolled there? I have been told as much as 30% of the schools enrollment does not live inside the district. This is believable since 1/3 of last years high school jv and varsity rosters were made up of kids that do not live in the district.
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 20:02:41 GMT -5
Wow. I don't get it Upper. Why do you keep poking the bear? You know what happens when he gets mad at somebody. But for a fortuitous change of conference by Riverdale you'd still be in the MOAC now. If you move right now there's a spot in the MOAC for you. Looks like it will be interesting to see if the KMAC tires of Highland before Sheldon/ the N10 tires of you. If you wait too long, who knows, maybe the SBC will have a spot for you somewhere. This is funny. The KMAC loves having Highland and as of their latest league meetings have absolutely no thoughts of changing their league. So the MOAC's dreams of Highland being available is not going to happen soon. But if it did, I was told by a KMAC AD that if they had an opening they would look to invite Pleasant, who would be by far the smallest school in the MOAC. At present time I have been told the N10 has more interest in keeping Upper than they do in listening to the CC AD again. Poking the bear will only become a problem if the CC "bear" tries to take action again.
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Post by purefan on Dec 9, 2018 20:35:27 GMT -5
I have heard some wild numbers but can anyone accurately say how many of the CC kids are open enrolled there? I have been told as much as 30% of the schools enrollment does not live inside the district. This is believable since 1/3 of last years high school jv and varsity rosters were made up of kids that do not live in the district. I should make you do the research since you are so preoccupied with cc’s open enrollee’s but im not mr. fillmore and will help you out. 960 students k thru 12 in what they consider the 3 buildings. Elementary, middle school, and high school. Of those 960, approx 265 are open enrollee’s. Have 60 students in school district that attend pioneer i believe i read. If my math is correct somewhere around 27% open enrolled. Hope this will help you sleep better tonite.
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Post by juju on Dec 9, 2018 20:45:24 GMT -5
I think the only recruiting Coach Winslow is doing is to his 2 sons. If he got them to come to upper they would be no doubt state contenders.
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Post by fbfan on Dec 9, 2018 22:10:46 GMT -5
Wow. I don't get it Upper. Why do you keep poking the bear? You know what happens when he gets mad at somebody. But for a fortuitous change of conference by Riverdale you'd still be in the MOAC now. If you move right now there's a spot in the MOAC for you. Looks like it will be interesting to see if the KMAC tires of Highland before Sheldon/ the N10 tires of you. If you wait too long, who knows, maybe the SBC will have a spot for you somewhere. I hadn't heard about the Stone kid transferring to Upper next year. Hawkins is looking like a saint compared to what's going on in Upper. I'm not going to tell you how I know it is, but I'm very certain it's true like some of the other posts on this thread. A good friend of mine told me near a church as we headed to the Tiro Tavern.
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Post by royalballdad on Dec 9, 2018 22:43:51 GMT -5
Fbfan... maybe what is going on in Upper is simple. Kids want to go play for a program that wins and plays a style of basketball that is fun to play and may actually help them become better players and have a chance to play ball after high school somewhere. The old saying, “if you build it they will come”. Doubt Winslow is doing anything in the form of recruiting. His record and coaching style speaks loud enough. Fbfan, You seem by all your posts to be part of the Cool-aid Drinking Sheldon Mafia Basketball Cabal. Anyone who posts sonething negative against the Grand Poobah Sheldon you have to come running to the thread to his defense. Just saying...
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Post by dude on Dec 9, 2018 23:04:50 GMT -5
I have heard some wild numbers but can anyone accurately say how many of the CC kids are open enrolled there? I have been told as much as 30% of the schools enrollment does not live inside the district. This is believable since 1/3 of last years high school jv and varsity rosters were made up of kids that do not live in the district. I should make you do the research since you are so preoccupied with cc’s open enrollee’s but im not mr. fillmore and will help you out. 960 students k thru 12 in what they consider the 3 buildings. Elementary, middle school, and high school. Of those 960, approx 265 are open enrollee’s. Have 60 students in school district that attend pioneer i believe i read. If my math is correct somewhere around 27% open enrolled. Hope this will help you sleep better tonite. I'll sleep well thanks. That is pretty much what I had been told. I had been told that last season's Jv and varsity roster had 6 kids of the 18 total that did not live in the district.
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