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Post by dude on Dec 21, 2022 22:12:29 GMT -5
I don’t see Ontario or Shelby leaving the MOAC. There is a higher likelihood that Lex joins the MOAC if another opening occurs. I’m not sure if the SBC is a better option for Lex/Madison/Mansfield Sr considering Clyde/Sandusky/Tiffin/Norwalk aren’t any closer to them than the OCC schools even if Dover joins. Sounds like wishful thinking to some hoping that the mega conference works out. Sandusky and Clyde are closer than New Phila and Dover, if you are comparing. Norwalk and Tiffin would be similar bus trip as Wooster and West Holmes. But I agree with others that Lex would not have interest in leaving an 8 team league that will probably not last long, to join a 6 team division in a realigning league that my not last as long either.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 22, 2022 11:49:39 GMT -5
It finally happened. The BVC has voted out Vanlue for football only. Vanlue said it’ll go the independent route and has no interest in 8 man football. Once Liberty Benton leaves the league they will be at 7 football schools. How did it get to this? Why is it such a mess to do something so simple to form a stable league and yet it seems impossible now. Firelands conference - currently operating with 7 football schools for the 3rd year in row next year BVC - will be at 7 football schools in a couple years NLL - will be operating with 11 schools The Firelands needs to give New London an ultimatum. Play 11 man or go away, so Lucas can join.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 18, 2023 13:48:44 GMT -5
I was just reading about the GLC changes coming up with Fairview leaving and EC and Holy Name looking for new homes. Someone else mentioned there’s been talks in the Lorain County league about replacing Oberlin. Who’d be a replacement if that ever happened?
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Post by cbus on Jan 22, 2023 13:28:57 GMT -5
Will someone list the benefits to Galion, Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork that would entice them to leave the cozy, 8-school MOAC and join a redesigned, ever-changing SBC or some variation thereof? And for those that say create a new Richland county type league, that's been discussed for years and frankly,I do not see it ever happening. Less travel time and more equitable school sizes are probably the only reasons to leave the MOAC. Mansfield Senior, Ashland and Madison are comparable in size to Marion Harding so that's probably a deal killer right there. Playing 3 large schools every year compared to only 1. The geography benefits are probably there because Mansfield/Ashland are closer than Marion. I think geography wise a league of Shelby, Ontario, Clear Fork, Galion, Crestview, Fredericktown, Loudonville and maybe Lexington would be a good fit. Similar to the old JAC (minus Crestline and Plymouth but adding Galion and Shelby).
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Post by sbclives on Jan 22, 2023 13:36:12 GMT -5
Will someone list the benefits to Galion, Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork that would entice them to leave the cozy, 8-school MOAC and join a redesigned, ever-changing SBC or some variation thereof? And for those that say create a new Richland county type league, that's been discussed for years and frankly,I do not see it ever happening. Less travel time and more equitable school sizes are probably the only reasons to leave the MOAC. Mansfield Senior, Ashland and Madison are comparable in size to Marion Harding so that's probably a deal killer right there. Playing 3 large schools every year compared to only 1. The geography benefits are probably there because Mansfield/Ashland are closer than Marion. I think geography wise a league of Shelby, Ontario, Clear Fork, Galion, Crestview, Fredericktown, Loudonville and maybe Lexington would be a good fit. Similar to the old JAC (minus Crestline and Plymouth but adding Galion and Shelby). Shelby and Lexington would dominate those other schools.
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Post by 2112 on Jan 22, 2023 14:28:10 GMT -5
Will someone list the benefits to Galion, Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork that would entice them to leave the cozy, 8-school MOAC and join a redesigned, ever-changing SBC or some variation thereof? And for those that say create a new Richland county type league, that's been discussed for years and frankly,I do not see it ever happening. Less travel time and more equitable school sizes are probably the only reasons to leave the MOAC. Mansfield Senior, Ashland and Madison are comparable in size to Marion Harding so that's probably a deal killer right there. Playing 3 large schools every year compared to only 1. The geography benefits are probably there because Mansfield/Ashland are closer than Marion. I think geography wise a league of Shelby, Ontario, Clear Fork, Galion, Crestview, Fredericktown, Loudonville and maybe Lexington would be a good fit. Similar to the old JAC (minus Crestline and Plymouth but adding Galion and Shelby). Based on both geography and enrollment, I think these might make decent conferences (or even better a single conference with big/small divisions): Big | Small | 433 Harding 391 Ashland 354 Senior 350 Madison 301 Lexington 278 Ontario 248 River Valley 247 Shelby | 211 Galion 207 Clear Fork 170 Pleasant 147 Crestview 127 Mapleton 125 Loudonville 107 Plymouth 64 Crestline |
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Jan 22, 2023 15:07:44 GMT -5
Will someone list the benefits to Galion, Ontario, Shelby and Clear Fork that would entice them to leave the cozy, 8-school MOAC and join a redesigned, ever-changing SBC or some variation thereof? And for those that say create a new Richland county type league, that's been discussed for years and frankly,I do not see it ever happening. Less travel time and more equitable school sizes are probably the only reasons to leave the MOAC. Mansfield Senior, Ashland and Madison are comparable in size to Marion Harding so that's probably a deal killer right there. Playing 3 large schools every year compared to only 1. The geography benefits are probably there because Mansfield/Ashland are closer than Marion. I think geography wise a league of Shelby, Ontario, Clear Fork, Galion, Crestview, Fredericktown, Loudonville and maybe Lexington would be a good fit. Similar to the old JAC (minus Crestline and Plymouth but adding Galion and Shelby). Crestview, Fredericktown, and Loudonville would want nothing to do with Shelby or Lexington on a yearly basis in any sport let alone football or basketball. And Galion has shown they don't want anything to do with Lexington. As I have said before I would be for a league with the SBC Lake and the western OCC schools. Clyde Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Perkins Sandusky Tiffin Columbian Ashland Mansfield Sr. Madison Lexington A nice clean 10 team league kind of like the WBL. The winner of that league would surely be battle tested to compete in the div II, III or IV playoffs in football. Not to mention a very competitive basketball league for both boys and girls.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 22, 2023 15:31:32 GMT -5
Less travel time and more equitable school sizes are probably the only reasons to leave the MOAC. Mansfield Senior, Ashland and Madison are comparable in size to Marion Harding so that's probably a deal killer right there. Playing 3 large schools every year compared to only 1. The geography benefits are probably there because Mansfield/Ashland are closer than Marion. I think geography wise a league of Shelby, Ontario, Clear Fork, Galion, Crestview, Fredericktown, Loudonville and maybe Lexington would be a good fit. Similar to the old JAC (minus Crestline and Plymouth but adding Galion and Shelby). Crestview, Fredericktown, and Loudonville would want nothing to do with Shelby or Lexington on a yearly basis in any sport let alone football or basketball. And Galion has shown they don't want anything to do with Lexington. As I have said before I would be for a league with the SBC Lake and the western OCC schools. Clyde Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Perkins Sandusky Tiffin Columbian Ashland Mansfield Sr. Madison Lexington A nice clean 10 team league kind of like the WBL. The winner of that league would surely be battle tested to compete in the div II, III or IV playoffs in football. Not to mention a very competitive basketball league for both boys and girls. Wow. That’s a great looking league. Would be great for all sports. Get the ADs on the phone now. Lol
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 22, 2023 19:53:01 GMT -5
Lex would be the smallest, but still dominate 3 sports tennis, CC and soccer. Would any other school Dominate 3 sports?
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Jan 22, 2023 20:06:55 GMT -5
Lex would be the smallest, but still dominate 3 sports tennis, CC and soccer. Would any other school Dominate 3 sports? Actually Sandusky Perkins, Bellevue and Clyde are smaller than Lex.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 22, 2023 22:14:08 GMT -5
SO in this league they are 3 smaller and in the OCC one smaller
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Post by sbclives on Jan 22, 2023 22:15:54 GMT -5
Perkins track and swimming are very good and their wrestling is solid also.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 22, 2023 22:27:04 GMT -5
Forgot to include swimming for the Lex boys, they usually finish in the top 10 at the State meet every year. Last year 6th
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Post by don on Jan 23, 2023 18:14:06 GMT -5
Less travel time and more equitable school sizes are probably the only reasons to leave the MOAC. Mansfield Senior, Ashland and Madison are comparable in size to Marion Harding so that's probably a deal killer right there. Playing 3 large schools every year compared to only 1. The geography benefits are probably there because Mansfield/Ashland are closer than Marion. I think geography wise a league of Shelby, Ontario, Clear Fork, Galion, Crestview, Fredericktown, Loudonville and maybe Lexington would be a good fit. Similar to the old JAC (minus Crestline and Plymouth but adding Galion and Shelby). Crestview, Fredericktown, and Loudonville would want nothing to do with Shelby or Lexington on a yearly basis in any sport let alone football or basketball. And Galion has shown they don't want anything to do with Lexington. As I have said before I would be for a league with the SBC Lake and the western OCC schools. Clyde Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Perkins Sandusky Tiffin Columbian Ashland Mansfield Sr. Madison Lexington A nice clean 10 team league kind of like the WBL. The winner of that league would surely be battle tested to compete in the div II, III or IV playoffs in football. Not to mention a very competitive basketball league for both boys and girls. Bellevue wants no part of this especially football
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Post by sbclives on Jan 23, 2023 19:26:33 GMT -5
Crestview, Fredericktown, and Loudonville would want nothing to do with Shelby or Lexington on a yearly basis in any sport let alone football or basketball. And Galion has shown they don't want anything to do with Lexington. As I have said before I would be for a league with the SBC Lake and the western OCC schools. Clyde Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Perkins Sandusky Tiffin Columbian Ashland Mansfield Sr. Madison Lexington A nice clean 10 team league kind of like the WBL. The winner of that league would surely be battle tested to compete in the div II, III or IV playoffs in football. Not to mention a very competitive basketball league for both boys and girls. Bellevue wants no part of this especially football Bellevue would be in the top half of that league for football pretty much every year.
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Post by 2112 on Jan 23, 2023 22:08:36 GMT -5
Bellevue wants no part of this especially football Bellevue would be in the top half of that league for football pretty much every year. Yeah, I think the correct statement here is "that league wants no part of Bellevue in this especially football" LOL.
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Post by don on Jan 24, 2023 5:40:36 GMT -5
Bellevue wants no part of this especially football Bellevue would be in the top half of that league for football pretty much every year. here’s another guy living in the past
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 7:08:18 GMT -5
Bellevue would be in the top half of that league for football pretty much every year. here’s another guy living in the past While Bellevue may not be as dominant as some of their past teams they are still a good football school. They are still good enough to beat at least half those teams on a yearly basis.
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Post by 2112 on Jan 24, 2023 9:53:54 GMT -5
here’s another guy living in the past While Bellevue may not be as dominant as some of their past teams they are still a good football school. They are still good enough to beat at least half those teams on a yearly basis. Plus, with today's tendency to shy away from just about any school who perennially posts at least a .500 season... yeah. Thanks again, 16-team regional playoffs...
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 24, 2023 10:03:16 GMT -5
Am I missing something?
When has Bellevue been consistently down to the point anyone is living in the past?
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 11:11:05 GMT -5
Am I missing something? When has Bellevue been consistently down to the point anyone is living in the past? That’s Dan for ya.
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 13:41:35 GMT -5
come talk to me when you get Ed’s d*** out of your mouth Lighten up, Francis. Before you get the boot and have to create another username with “Don” in it.
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Post by don on Jan 24, 2023 13:55:17 GMT -5
come talk to me when you get Ed’s d*** out of your mouth Lighten up, Francis. Before you get the boot and have to create another username with “Don” in it. yeah I’m scared to get booted from a forum with a bunch of dudes that don’t know Poop. Another great take from sbclives
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Post by sbclives on Jan 24, 2023 14:00:21 GMT -5
Lighten up, Francis. Before you get the boot and have to create another username with “Don” in it. yeah I’m scared to get booted from a forum with a bunch of dudes that don’t know Poop. Another great take from sbclives You even capitalized poop. Dan means serious business when it comes to poop.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Jan 24, 2023 14:20:19 GMT -5
come talk to me when you get Ed’s d*** out of your mouth Lighten up, Francis. Before you get the boot and have to create another username with “Don” in it. Ed? Dick?? Francis??? Don?!?! Dan?!?!? dude?!?!?!? A basketball team that would beat most in the BS league.
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Post by jakethesnake2 on Jan 24, 2023 19:49:57 GMT -5
Two threads that are crapshows
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Post by sbclives on Feb 24, 2023 16:52:33 GMT -5
I read that Ada will be having a meeting on looking at the pros of possibly joining the BVC. I guess now that Liberty Benton is gone, Ada is going to be first to call dibs.
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Post by litebrite on Mar 2, 2023 14:38:51 GMT -5
I see Columbian is looking for yet another Athletic Director....
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Post by ScottT on Mar 2, 2023 14:42:29 GMT -5
I read that Ada will be having a meeting on looking at the pros of possibly joining the BVC. I guess now that Liberty Benton is gone, Ada is going to be first to call dibs. The problem is the BVC is on life support, with or without Liberty-Benton or Ada.
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Post by sbclives on Mar 2, 2023 15:10:36 GMT -5
I read that Ada will be having a meeting on looking at the pros of possibly joining the BVC. I guess now that Liberty Benton is gone, Ada is going to be first to call dibs. The problem is the BVC is on life support, with or without Liberty-Benton or Ada. I’ve thought that for a couple years now. I think the BVC needs to dissolve and each school find a new home. I know it’s easier said then done but I’d rather proactive now then go down on the sinking ship.
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