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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 21:06:06 GMT -5
Sandusky 63-51 over Mansfield Madison
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Post by bigox on Dec 10, 2016 21:57:49 GMT -5
Upper over Shelby 74-65. Shelby never really challenged Upper most of the game. They pulled within 5 points in the 3rd. But never could find a cohesive scoring run and couldn't get stops on defense.
Upper was lead by Jevon Dible with another solid performance from 3point range. 10 points off the bench by defensive specialist Andrew Kurtz. Upper turned Shelby over a lot in the first half.
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Post by bgsustudent19 on Dec 10, 2016 22:45:07 GMT -5
Columbian lost tonight to Fremont Ross, 60-56. Played hard, shooters did not get many looks. Chucked up a lot of ill advised layups.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 10, 2016 22:47:33 GMT -5
Wooster 64, Ontario 43. Different level of play altogether than that of Sandusky. 2 or 3 inches taller and stronger at every position and just as athletic. Their physical play and fast break killed Ontario. And they have the best 3 point shooter I've seen in years. I don't know what he did at Northwestern, but it must have been really bad to kick that kind of player out of school.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Dec 10, 2016 23:07:59 GMT -5
^^^If its the young man I think your talking about, he went off for 38 against Lex last year at the College of Wooster. WQKT Steve Smith Classic. Wooster is for real this year. This might even be a year they can make a run in the D-I tourney.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 23:22:00 GMT -5
The kid was suspended, not kicked out, so he could return but I was told he had burned so many bridges he did not.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 10, 2016 23:29:30 GMT -5
How many games would he have had to sit if he returned to Northwestern?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 23:35:11 GMT -5
Probably the same he had to when he moved to the Wooster district.
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Post by Big Lex Fan on Dec 10, 2016 23:56:45 GMT -5
Did not have to sit out any, I dont think as he move his residence from the Northwestern district to the Wooster district. I believe with his father.
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Post by dump on Dec 11, 2016 2:04:56 GMT -5
Just stopping in to remind everyone Jared Hohler threw for 1500 yards this past season and was snubbed an All-Ohio selection. He has also led the Tigers to an 2-0 start on the hardwood. The kid has had an incredible 2016. Go tigers
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 7:38:49 GMT -5
Did not have to sit out any, I dont think as he move his residence from the Northwestern district to the Wooster district. I believe with his father. Correct.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 7:51:51 GMT -5
Just stopping in to remind everyone Jared Hohler threw for 1500 yards this past season and was snubbed an All-Ohio selection. He has also led the Tigers to an 2-0 start on the hardwood. The kid has had an incredible 2016. Go tigers You do realize that 1500yds is not an uncommon stat for a QB. In the Mansfield News Journal coverage area 6 accomplished this. 3 were over 2,000yds. And the teams you have beat in basketball are a combined 0-6. Maybe you can get a participation trophy to keep you happy.
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Post by tommygunn on Dec 11, 2016 9:16:34 GMT -5
Just stopping in to remind everyone Jared Hohler threw for 1500 yards this past season and was snubbed an All-Ohio selection. He has also led the Tigers to an 2-0 start on the hardwood. The kid has had an incredible 2016. Go tigers Throwing for 1500 yards is not that impressive these days.
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Post by bigox on Dec 11, 2016 9:46:59 GMT -5
Just stopping in to remind everyone Jared Hohler threw for 1500 yards this past season and was snubbed an All-Ohio selection. He has also led the Tigers to an 2-0 start on the hardwood. The kid has had an incredible 2016. Go tigers Snubbed? Hard to snub someone off a 3-7 team. With mediocre stats compared to others in the region. Look it up he's not even in the top ten in the region let alone all ohio. Smh.....
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Post by dump on Dec 11, 2016 11:32:06 GMT -5
What you all are forgetting is he also had over 200 rushing yards. Name a better SBC QB in the last 5 years..
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 11, 2016 13:44:41 GMT -5
Probably the same he had to when he moved to the Wooster district. So, his offense was very minor then, no penalty involved if he stayed. He just wanted to "run away" from Northwestern. OHSAA Bylaw 4-5-5 states. Any student suspended or expelled from a member school shall be ineligible for interscholastic athletics at any member school for the duration of the suspension or expulsion. I have always thought it should go one step further. Even if there is no suspension or expulsion. If an athlete has broken a athletic policy rule which results in a penalty of a number of missed games or a sports season. The student athlete if transferring to another district, the same penalty should also pertain there. You can "run away" from a school, but should not be allowed to "run away" from penalties pertaining to an athletic policy.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 11, 2016 13:49:32 GMT -5
Did not have to sit out any, I dont think as he move his residence from the Northwestern district to the Wooster district. I believe with his father. Let me apologize for not being clear enough for you to understand what I was asking. IF he had stayed AT Northwestern, how many games would he have had to sit out AT Northwestern? OBVIOUSLY he isn't sitting out any games AT Wooster.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 11, 2016 13:53:15 GMT -5
What you all are forgetting is he also had over 200 rushing yards. Name a better SBC QB in the last 5 years.. The most important result of a great QB is that he WILL raise the level of play of the players around him, which should result in a winning record.
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Post by Willard Fillmore on Dec 11, 2016 14:13:44 GMT -5
What you all are forgetting is he also had over 200 rushing yards. Name a better SBC QB in the last 5 years.. Are you implying that there has been a dearth of above average QBs in the SEC in the past half decade?
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Post by footballfan on Dec 11, 2016 19:49:22 GMT -5
That would include the Thompson kid. Who did he play for? LOL dump you are truly a jack_ass!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 19:52:52 GMT -5
Probably the same he had to when he moved to the Wooster district. So, his offense was very minor then, no penalty involved if he stayed. He just wanted to "run away" from Northwestern. OHSAA Bylaw 4-5-5 states. Any student suspended or expelled from a member school shall be ineligible for interscholastic athletics at any member school for the duration of the suspension or expulsion. I have always thought it should go one step further. Even if there is no suspension or expulsion. If an athlete has broken a athletic policy rule which results in a penalty of a number of missed games or a sports season. The student athlete if transferring to another district, the same penalty should also pertain there. You can "run away" from a school, but should not be allowed to "run away" from penalties pertaining to an athletic policy. I said he was suspended. Do you ever read posts from others to gain information or do you read just to respond. He did not play every game last season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 19:57:24 GMT -5
Did not have to sit out any, I dont think as he move his residence from the Northwestern district to the Wooster district. I believe with his father. Let me apologize for not being clear enough for you to understand what I was asking. IF he had stayed AT Northwestern, how many games would he have had to sit out AT Northwestern? OBVIOUSLY he isn't sitting out any games AT Wooster. It is obvious you do not know the situation. He sat out games last year. Made a move and now attends Wooster living in the district. If he would legitimately move back to Northwestern, he has no discipline with them. Maybe some burned bridges though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 19:58:36 GMT -5
What you all are forgetting is he also had over 200 rushing yards. Name a better SBC QB in the last 5 years.. Are you implying that there has been a dearth of above average QBs in the SEC in the past half decade? How did we go from the SBC to the SEC in a response?
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Post by cbus on Dec 12, 2016 7:08:48 GMT -5
Norwalk from State Champs to getting dumped on weekly ever since. A real powerhouse of longevity. One year from Title to losing by 54 to Lorain Sr. A couple good years to nada going forward----Willard had 35 years of success,,,we were bound to hit a rough patch,,we have kids coming up now. Norwalk was blessed in a singular class with one college Div1 player, another who obviously could be playing Div1 if he chose to, the requisite role players and a good coach. Which equals a very good team. AND all stepped up when required for the run. Look around this area, that perfect storm doesn't happen that often. Willard has a very good 8th grade team, but not much to speak of ahead or behind that class. I saw Ben Haraway play in the Ashland U. v Saginaw Valley State game last Thursday. It's the only time I've seen him play at the college level (so a small sample size). Saginaw Valley State is also the #1 ranked D2 school in the country. Anyway I did not think he was D1 (MAC) talent based on that game. He's quick, handles the ball and drives well but his outside shot looked shaky to me. Anyway, that's based on 1 game and he's listed as a sophomore.
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Post by ScarletFever on Dec 12, 2016 8:47:56 GMT -5
Norwalk from State Champs to getting dumped on weekly ever since. A real powerhouse of longevity. One year from Title to losing by 54 to Lorain Sr. A couple good years to nada going forward----Willard had 35 years of success,,,we were bound to hit a rough patch,,we have kids coming up now. 35 years of success with no state titles. Brings up the question what would you rather have? A question I've asked myself and no doubt whatever one I experienced would probably be my answer. A title is an easy choice but you gotta remember I had pretty much 12 straight years growing up with awesome hoops tourney trips and memories during the heyday. Doubt I'd trade that back.
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Post by Whittaker on Dec 12, 2016 14:47:09 GMT -5
As someone from a school with a state title, I honestly would rather have year after year of success and tradition, a la Willard. Willard had a long exciting affair with success. Upper had a one night stand and a little sugar the following morning. Maybe if we had won the title when I was still in school I'd feel differently.
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Post by sixof7 on Dec 12, 2016 18:51:23 GMT -5
Just stopping in to remind everyone Jared Hohler threw for 1500 yards this past season and was snubbed an All-Ohio selection. He has also led the Tigers to an 2-0 start on the hardwood. The kid has had an incredible 2016. Go tigers I believe the PC quarterback Brenner had 1502 yds with a 60% completion and 15 TDs, and he rushed for 372 yds and another 7 TDs. And I think he was a long snapper and played linebacker. Didn't come off field from what I witnessed. (Probably why he was named first team) But we will see what happens when they match up on the hardwood. I think he is close to a 20-10 player a night
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Post by bsports on Dec 12, 2016 19:35:48 GMT -5
That's a good question about the state title. If you love basketball it sure is nice to have something to watch on the court year in and year out. Guess if you knew how it would turn out, i.e, basketball in the area now you'd definitely pick the state title.
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Post by portwalk on Dec 12, 2016 21:05:06 GMT -5
Norwalk was blessed in a singular class with one college Div1 player, another who obviously could be playing Div1 if he chose to, the requisite role players and a good coach. Which equals a very good team. AND all stepped up when required for the run. Look around this area, that perfect storm doesn't happen that often. Willard has a very good 8th grade team, but not much to speak of ahead or behind that class. I saw Ben Haraway play in the Ashland U. v Saginaw Valley State game last Thursday. It's the only time I've seen him play at the college level (so a small sample size). Saginaw Valley State is also the #1 ranked D2 school in the country. Anyway I did not think he was D1 (MAC) talent based on that game. He's quick, handles the ball and drives well but his outside shot looked shaky to me. Anyway, that's based on 1 game and he's listed as a sophomore. Based on ONE game vs the #1 team in D2 you don't think Ben could play at a MAC school??? His outside shot looked shaky??? He is shooting 48% from 3 for the year. The game you watched was one of his lowest Offensive outputs of the season in which he is averaging 12ppg shooting 49% from the field with 2.6 Asst/TO ratio. Does this mean he could play at a MAC level? not sure, however I know I would base my opinion on stats rather than ONE game... He is a Soph sat out a year after transferring from Malone to Ashland.
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Post by portwalk on Dec 12, 2016 21:46:47 GMT -5
Norwalk from State Champs to getting dumped on weekly ever since. A real powerhouse of longevity. One year from Title to losing by 54 to Lorain Sr. A couple good years to nada going forward----Willard had 35 years of success,,,we were bound to hit a rough patch,,we have kids coming up now. It becomes an easy question when the truth (35 years?) is rewritten. Willard had success from 72/73 to 92/93 (20 years) which is undeniable. Then for the next 7 years they were a bottom feeder. Then came the Half decade of success (00-06) of the Dials/Langhurst years. Then in the decade plus since JL graduated they have been a below average NOL team and based on lower levels success the "rough patch" as you deemed it will continue for years... By the way Norwalk who in your words "gets dumped on every week" and has NADA success is 4-0 vs Willard and will more than likely be 6-0 after this season since WINNING the STATE title... In fact they will more than likely move to 16-0 in the last 8 YEARS after this season vs "Rough Patch" Willard..
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