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Post by gridiron58 on Nov 25, 2017 10:07:16 GMT -5
Private Schools in weeks 13 to 15: Wk 13 Semis Finals Winners2016 14 9 5 4 2017 8 4 1 ? Is this just a down year for private schools or did the competitive balance rules actually have an impact? Yah, I was going to post something about this last week with 24 public schools and only 4 private schools in the semis. Only time will tell about CB, but it wont stop the whining about the private schools. Apparently if THEIR public school can't beat Central Catholic, the whole system is unfair. If it is so unfair, how have other public schools beaten them? Either CB worked or the publics did a better job at recruiting.... err..... I mean open enrollment than the privates did this year.
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Post by gridiron58 on Nov 16, 2017 12:56:16 GMT -5
And it was such a traumatic experience for Shelby that they only won by 49 points. One game there every two years... I think everyone would survive (after a few rounds of therapy). It’s not Friday night football that’s an issue. It’s weekday games. Put freshman boys on a bus there during the week. That means getting home very late after a football game with school the next day. They could on Saturday
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Post by gridiron58 on Nov 16, 2017 12:43:23 GMT -5
It took me almost 2 hours to get to Oak Harbor from my Parents place just south of town...Google maps does a poor job of factoring in traffic and stop lights...and Kids bladders.... And it was such a traumatic experience for Shelby that they only won by 49 points. One game there every two years... I think everyone would survive (after a few rounds of therapy).
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Post by gridiron58 on Nov 11, 2017 22:40:56 GMT -5
Good season Clyde, it sucks when you run into recruiting powerhouses and the public schools suffer because they are fully invested in establishing programs from grade school and up. These private schools should be in there OWN division. This is BS. Public schools "recruit" all the time.... they just call it open enrollment. Same thing, different name.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 28, 2017 11:16:27 GMT -5
Congrats Mike may. Even though your buddy drew grahl did his best to dumb down the schedule to make you a winner you still came up 5-5. Nice job Dumbed down schedule? Seven opponents were the same as last year. 3 different... Last year: Clyde, This year: Shelby = We'll call that a Push from a toughness standpoint. OH lost both games. Last year: SJCC, This year: Clavert = Much tougher opponent this year. OH won both games. Last year: Eastwood, This year: Woodmore = Much tougher opponent last year. OH won both games.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 27, 2017 18:53:09 GMT -5
Fox'll show restraint, but I doubt it'll have as much to do with civic affections as some seem to think. Why risk it against Willard and step on the gas? He kept his starters in up 41points against SJCC until 5 min left. I don't think he knows what the word restraint means.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 27, 2017 5:41:31 GMT -5
The great "who really cares" battle. This coming from a 2 win Perkins fan (0-9 tiffin & 2-7 Norwalk). You might want to start caring about this "battle".... after the beat-down Sandusky gives Perkins tis weekend.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 26, 2017 20:35:11 GMT -5
Seneca East Bellevue Norwalk Sandusky Edison Port Clinton Shelby Calvert Lakota SJCC
Tiebreaker - 48
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 22, 2017 9:28:27 GMT -5
Either first or second. They would not have turned it over on downs.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 22, 2017 8:53:02 GMT -5
Lakota's coach is a SJCC grad who's also coached there. Why would he run it up on them? He has nothing at all to gain by running it up. My advice to SJCC? If you don't want run over and blown out? Stop them. I could not have said it any better myself. Lento is one of the classier and most respectful coaches in the area. Up by 24 with 45 seconds left. Choice A) Take a knee and walk off the field with the victory. Choice B) Keep pounding the ball with your starters to score a meaningless TD to run up the score. Classy and respectful.... really? "Why would he run it up on them? He has nothing at all to gain by running it up." You tell me? Why else would you not just take a knee other than trying to score? Why whould he run it up on them? Oh, maybe because he was passed over for the head coaching job? Classy and respectful... what a joke.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 21, 2017 21:15:04 GMT -5
If they dial it down any further they'll be playing Van Lue and the Ohio School of the blind. Drew Pasteur's site says Willard has played the 42nd toughest schedule out of 104 D5 schools (top half). I'm sorry you think Willard should be playing the same schedule as Port Clinton a school way bigger than my Flashes. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I remember Port Clinton playing in a Conference called the Sandusky Bay Conference against Calvert, SMCC, St Joe and Margaretta in the 1980's? Pot meet Kettle. Willard Dad.... I don't have a dog in this fight, but do you realize that in the 80's St. Joe was 4 times as big as it is now with class sizes of 100-130? That's about what they have in the whole school now (boys and girls combined). All four of the schools you mentioned are significantly smaller than they were in the old SBC days.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 21, 2017 21:00:18 GMT -5
Another week, another piece of S#it coach runs up the score. Lakota scored last TD with 45 seconds left and the starters still in.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 21, 2017 14:52:22 GMT -5
They're a year early! next year when they drop norwalk, huron and have a complete 8 game league schedule adding horrible danbury and gibsonburg they will win 8 games. 8 wins for Margaretta next year is pretty optimistic. Between Calvert, Seneca East, Gibsonburg, Western Reserve, Monroeville & Lakota I see an easy 4 loses.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 21, 2017 14:12:51 GMT -5
Poor SMCC..........that program has sure gone downhill. Sad to say, but if they can't get some more kids involved, they should just do away with football at the school. Is it realistic that the football program could cease to exist in the near future? How's the health of the SJCC program? SJCC FB is way up in numbers after getting a coach that the kids want to play for (and doesn't act like a complete embarrassment) last year. They have something like 43 in the program this year (up from a couple of dozen a few years back). I hope Coach Spicer sticks around for a while!
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 20, 2017 5:36:08 GMT -5
Clear Fork Clyde Perkins Sandusky Edison Huron Shelby Willard Lakota Calvert
52
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 15, 2017 19:33:23 GMT -5
Volleyball in the River Division should be up in the air. Old Fort graduated their "super seniors" who have been mostly responsible for that school's recent success. Old Fort will just reload and be fine in the River Division. Not much talent other then OF. Good call areafan1! Old Fort was swept by Calvert, New Riegel and SJCC on the season and a 4th place finish in the River. Maybe I knew what I was talking about in August?
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 14, 2017 7:54:29 GMT -5
I like Clyde very much, but I glad that Sandusky won. Know I see why Clyde didn't want Ross into the league, Clyde would have two losses. Instead of runner from competition get better. I've read a lot of bad comments on here. This is up towards the top. Clyde e(r)uns from nobodyRoss wanted in + Clyde voted no = Clyde runs from somebody.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 14, 2017 7:40:52 GMT -5
Oh by the way I thought you'd like to know. Port Clinton and Bellevue will be playing week one starting in 2019. You can quit your complaining now Nice to see PC has the stones to play Bellevue. Unlike some others. Thanks for the update redskinfan! Unfortunately, nothing will stop the complaining..... as you can see by JohnStudd's comment.
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 14, 2017 7:32:02 GMT -5
Willard rolls in this one 30-7. Sweeping the division for the rest of the year. Finishing 5-5. Nailed It!!!
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 12, 2017 5:19:27 GMT -5
Wynford Bellevue Sandusky Norwalk Edison Vermilion Shelby Margaretta Lakota Calvert
48
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 6, 2017 20:40:20 GMT -5
Willard 20 - SJCC 13 Final
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Post by gridiron58 on Oct 4, 2017 18:19:39 GMT -5
Ashland Bellevue Clyde Sandusky Huron Vermilion Shelby Margaretta SJCC Calvert
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 29, 2017 20:59:28 GMT -5
In typical Calvert fasion, up by 41, they keep their starters in until 5 min left. I can't wait until that crap bites them in the butt. I just don't understand some of these idiot coaches.
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 27, 2017 21:09:23 GMT -5
Calvert Sandusky Port Clinton Lakota Bellevue Clyde Shelby SMCC Vermilion Margaretta
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 23, 2017 18:16:03 GMT -5
I am not quoting myself. I posted the quote, who wrote it and when. It's on the previous page of this thred. Its not good enough for you because you can't admit you are wrong.
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 23, 2017 16:38:23 GMT -5
Shelby folk ARE crying about it, my original reply was a direct response to one such "Shelby folk". You can defend your "unstable" comment all you want. It's not. Unstable is a league when one school randomly decides to leave... the league has to disband. Will Shelby leaving disband the SBC, no. You know why? Because the division set-up alows for flexibility with things like that. Just because you can't seem to wrap your mind around the idea of several Divisions in one league (it's really not that difficult to understand), doesn't make it unstable. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Shelby was ASKED to join the SBC? Who cares? The point is they ACCEPTED the invitation.... then immediately bailed before playing a game. Zero integrity. Show me proof where Shelby folk are crying about it. Yes the SBC is unstable. It started when Margaretta and SMCC initially bolted. No, Shelby will leaving will not cause the SBC to disband but it's going to force a school or two to play in a division they don't want to and the griping continues. Schools are going to be looking for something better. You're right in that the division setup is not difficult to understand. I get it completely. No matter how hard the SBC tries, it will be nearly impossible to keep all schools happy with that current division setup. It will constantly be in a state of flux. So you're not sure why I keep bringing up Shelby being asked to join the SBC. It's the same reason you can't wrap your brain around the 100% legit reasons why Shelby is leaving the SBC. It was made perfectly clear in my previous post. Zero integrity or not, the Shelby folk are moving on. Here is your proof (If you would have read the previous page of this thread you would have seen this yourself, and as I said before, I was originally replying to this). "Sep 15, 2017 at 6:12pm sweathog said: Well I hear Shelby will be independent next year for football! The SBC schools will play them but not as league games. They are being butt heads on this, they are mad because Shelby is leaving. All you are doing is penalizing the kids from getting league recognition ! " It sure sounds like a Shelby fan crying about it. Good Enough for you? And now to try to make your point about SBC being unstable by bringing up "Margaretta and SMCC bolting" when it was a single Division, as if the stability of a single division league has anything to do with the three division set-up it is now? All you did was make a better case for the stability of a multi-division league. I never said that Shelby did not have legit reasons for leaving. I am saying that if they had no intention of staying, they should have never agreed to join in the first place. Your last statement says it all "Zero integrity or not, the Shelby folk are moving on". I think I saw that on a sign the last time I drove through Shelby. Good riddance!
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 23, 2017 15:40:20 GMT -5
It would be helpful if you actually read the post. It is Shelby that is saying it is unfair that they will not be playing SBC League games next year. LOL... "constant state of instability". You mean the the kind of instability caused by a team joing and then leaving the leage a year later? Wow..... just wow! I read it. The Shelby folk aren't crying it's unfair. I'm pretty certain the Shelby folk knew that leaving the SBC for the MOAC, they factored in that not getting all league (or is it all division? Good grief) recognition might happen. If it does, oh well. Those are the breaks. The Shelby folks will deal with it. You can keep defending the SBC is stable all you want. The truth is it's not and will never be with the current setup. From the get go, schools demanded that they be in this division or that division and now you have schools complaining about cross-over games. So yeah, I stand by my constant state of instability comment. Quite frankly, I don't know why Shelby leaving the SBC leaves some people so butt hurt over it. Shelby is an AWFUL fit geographically and when the current SBC was setup, most knew that Shelby would leave once there was an opening in the MOAC. Before Shelby was ASKED to join the SBC, they were in talks with all the current MOAC schools (except North Union & Buckeye Valley) in an attempt to form a completely new league. They tried to get Upper Sandusky and Willard to join but they both declined and Shelby ended up going with plan C (the OCC was plan B) and joined the SBC. Shelby folk ARE crying about it, my original reply was a direct response to one such "Shelby folk". You can defend your "unstable" comment all you want. It's not. Unstable is a league when one school randomly decides to leave... the league has to disband. Will Shelby leaving disband the SBC, no. You know why? Because the division set-up alows for flexibility with things like that. Just because you can't seem to wrap your mind around the idea of several Divisions in one league (it's really not that difficult to understand), doesn't make it unstable. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Shelby was ASKED to join the SBC? Who cares? The point is they ACCEPTED the invitation.... then immediately bailed before playing a game. Zero integrity.
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 23, 2017 13:52:02 GMT -5
Shelby: Oh, that is so unfair! Unfair? Who cares? Except maybe you. Shelby made the correct move leaving that train wreck SBC and the constant state of instability with that goofy division setup. It would be helpful if you actually read the post. It is Shelby that is saying it is unfair that they will not be playing SBC League games next year. LOL... "constant state of instability". You mean the the kind of instability caused by a team joing and then leaving the leage a year later? Wow..... just wow!
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 23, 2017 13:46:19 GMT -5
So you wanted to date the girl that you knew was interested in somebody else. You just didn't believe that they would ever be interested in her. So you figured you could just treat her however you wanted. Throw them in the division, away from their longtime rivals and with significantly more travel. Then it turns out that the other guy was interested in her after all. You can't be mad that she left you that's on you. Are you saying that Shelby didn't know what division they would be in before they accepted the invite? If so, that is on them. By the way... which long time rivals are they not playing this year? Tiffin? I'd say they did Shelby a favor.
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Post by gridiron58 on Sept 23, 2017 13:19:24 GMT -5
Shelby: Hey, SBC, will you please let us join your league because there is nowhere else for us to go? SBC: Sure, you are approved to join our league. Shelby, one year later: We are leaving, but can we still play league games until it suits us? SBC: No. Shelby: Oh, that is so unfair! Shelby was asked to joinMy bad.... that changes everyting! SBC: Hey, Shelby, would you like to join the SBC? Shelby: Yes please. SBC: You are approved to join our league. Shelby, one year later: We are leaving, but can we still play league games until it suits us? SBC: No. Shelby: Oh, that is so unfair!
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